Posted by: Donna Cunningham | July 3, 2010

Daybreak and the 12th House Sun

©6-23-2010 by guest blogger, Jeremy Neal of Chirotic Journal

Donna says: In looking for new perspectives to share on the 12th house, I was delighted to come across this article by Jeremy Neal—and in the process to discover a blog full of exceptional material.  This post is reprinted here with his permission.

Why exactly all the fuss about the 12th house Sun?

I hear the reality of a 12th house Sun bemoaned on a frequent basis. That Venus in the 12th has its plus points too, but generally, wouldn’t it be better for me if…? It’s funny, because nobody makes a great hue and cry about having Sun or Venus in Pisces – which is fundamentally the exact same condition with only a nuance of difference at best – and yet the 12th house, like the 8th and to some extent the 4th gets this ongoing bad press.

It all stems from the astrology of the ancients of course, for whom a 12th house Sun had undoubtedly harsher connotations in a world without the leisure and affluence to support any but the most worldly of considerations.

And that’s all it is really. People with an 8th or 12th house Sun have to be identified with non-worldly, non-superficial objectives. For the 8th, that means that privacy and power are the keystones of personal expression and self-development.

In the 12th, the ego has to be transcended – which can potentially be astonishingly difficult because the level one exposition of that imperative is to be everyone’s doormat – a common complaint levelled both at and by your average Piscean incidentally – but it doesn’t have to be that way.

Tony Blair, Margaret Thatcher and Gordon Brown, all British Prime Ministers, shared a Sun in the 12th. Hardly doormats or ‘background’ types. So what makes the difference between the future leader of the nation and the future heroin addict or perennial fall guy?

For various reasons, superfluous to this discussion, I have been attending to this issue of late. Why does it happen that the 12th house Sun so often, as Alan Leo said it, is “promised much improvement in worldly affairs as your life advances”?

Sue Tompkins – whom I respect greatly even though I believe in this instance that she has it wrong – determines that the Sun in the 12th is so tired of being overlooked that they push themselves forward with even greater vigour in later life. Of course, this seems logical, but if that were the case then why should they often manage it so well? It’s not as though arriving late at the party qualifies one for being the life and soul of it after all. Surely, those who have put more time into the business of being out front in life really ought to benefit more obviously.

I think the answer is very simply found in the instance of the Secondary Progressed chart. This perspective is sorely neglected in contemporary astrology, because the nativity is not in stasis. We are not fixed any more than the seed determines the tree. Certainly, it determines the species of tree, but myriad elements of environment, meteorology and soil acidity will shape the resultant outgrowth.

In this way, transits and progressions quite deliberately progress our nativity. It might not be therefore that the Sun literally emerges from the cabined confines of the 12th, but countless aspects of strength and dignity are shifted in the ongoing miasma of cosmic interrelationship as the chart progresses.

In Tony Blair’s case, for example, he graduated from Oxford in the same year that his Jupiter emerged from the 12th house.

The  Sun had moved out of the 12th two years previously at the same time as his association with the Anglican minister Peter Thomson awakened within Blair a deep concern for religious faith and left-wing politics. The Solar identity begins to emerge at the exact moment that the Sun emerges from the 12th house by Secondary Progression.

This is no mere coincidence: it happens in every case. With Gordon Brown, the Sun emerged by SP from his 12th house in 1996, less than a year from the Labour party being elected to office whereupon he became Blair’s chancellor; and too the year that – when you follow the news stories of the day – Brown actually thrust himself into the public consciousness. This is not coincidence.

Of course, anyone with an 11th house Sun has by definition therefore, to weather the relative obscurities of the long years of the 12th house transit. Consider as an example George W. Bush, whose Sun crossed the Ascendant by Secondary progression in 1983, the same year his father (Sun) became president. In 1995, when he was elected to office, his SP chart evinced not a single hard Ptolemaic aspect, a most beatific astrological disposition.

The impression that any retrospective of Bush’s life confers is really one of obscure origins, a slightly murky past (complete with alcoholic tendencies and DUI convictions!) and an earlier life that is lived, to some extent, in the shadows. This period concurs perfectly with the 12th house transit of his Sun by Secondary Progression.

In some ways then, it is perhaps better to be born with Sun in the 12th than with Sun in the 10th, because there is a life that starts well and ends – if not badly – at least with greater obscurity than it began.

The arc of that narrative is clear too, consider the businessman (10th) who makes his fortune then through a growing consciousness of the plight of less fortunate humanity (11th house) eventually becomes a philanthropist and gives all his money to the world’s poor and afflicted (12th).

Of course, we will never escape the blueprinting of our emergence into incarnation, so the 12th house Sun will ultimately require an identification with something that represents the infinite, that corresponds archetypically with the return to Eden.

That is why selfishness backfires in the long run on the 12th house Sun and the Pisces Sun alike, but to believe that such placements confer a life-sentence of obscurity and defeat is provably very wide of the mark.

Sadness flies on the wings of the morning and out of the heart of darkness comes the light.”
Jean Giraudoux.

NOTE: If you’d like to read more by this insightful astrologer, Jeremy’s blog also has more articles on the 12th house here: Mars in the 12th: dazed and confused…  and here:  Venus in the 12th,  and an article to complement our recent discussion of Neptune in the 3rd here:  Lost in Translation: Neptune in the 3rd.

Readers, do you have a 12th house Sun?  What have you learned about yourself in this miniseries of posts about the 12th house?  Tell us about it in the comment section.

Jeremy Neal says of himself:   I am a full-time, professional astrologer and have been student of the great art since age 12. I was taught the rudiments of my vocation by my grandfather who was also an astrologer, to date I have provided astrological insights for many hundreds of individuals. I work very hard to help people with their life issues and problems, and if you are interested in my services then visit my consultation website www.astrologyhour.com. I am also happy to answer astrological questions on my blog,  Chirotic Journal, so please feel free to ask anything and I will try to make a reasonable answer from it if I am able. I live in rural Sussex, England, with Alice. You may contact me directly using chirotic.school@gmail.com.

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Responses

  1. Wow! Great article and great series of articles. I tell you what Donna, we 12th housers (I have a stellium there no less) are built of stronger stuff than first imagined. How could we not?
    Could it be that because our sun sign is “hidden” so to speak, that we are a wealth of silent strength and intelligence?
    Yes, I have been used as a doormat for years, but perhaps as in Mark Twain’s great novel, “The Prince and the Pauper” it takes being “wiped on”, it takes seeing the underbelly of the human condition or psyche to truly egg us on to bigger and more important things. Instead of cynicism, we develop empathy, instead of allowing our anger to fester, we paint beauty, write beauty, treat the overlooked kindly (without allowing them to walk all over us). In other words, perhaps our roles as 12th house hiders should be renamed “observers”? Perhaps as observers, we accrue important knowledge that will one day serve us as strengths? I doubt it will ever be easy, but I do believe we can choose to incarnate with the lessons we need to learn.
    Right now my husband and I need all the strength our 12th house suns have allowed us to garner. Instead of these hardships carrying us under, we are now ready to do battle. With the insecurities of society and what others have said we must accept. If anything, we 12th housers are armed with fortitude!
    Thanks Donna, for allowing me to share, and peace to you all.

    • That was my hope in doing this series, Adela, to let our 12th house folks see how much the 12th has to offer. I sincerely wouldn’t want my Sun anywhere else–it’s who I’m meant to be and have spent many lives preparing for. Donna

      • The article on the 12th house was very helpful and encouraging. My Taurus Sun has had a hard time in bringing my work and life direction out to the surface. In my particular case I have contributing factors : a 6th house Neptune in scorpio squaring my 9th house Saturn. Knowing that I have potential to improve considerably with transits and secondary progressions is uplifting. Thank you very much.

      • We always can use our knowledge of astrology to help us improve–that’s the real point in studying it. The Neptune-Saturn square does complicate matters. Have you seen my article on Neptune-Saturn aspects at: http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/03/30/getting-a-grip-on-saturn-neptune-aspects/ ? Read the comment section–there’s amazing sharing from others with this aspect. Donna

  2. Hmmm…so it’s true, secret societies spawn politicians ( every self-serving one of them)…

  3. Happy birthday, Donna!

    • Thanks, Natalie, and all of you who wrote to wish me a happy birthday. Donna

  4. Happy birth Donna!

    For all people who have planets in the 12th house. Please, make exercises of the new gereracion disciplines such as pilates and gyrokinesis, strength all the body. To improve everything involved in this ancestral house. Only new disciplines. Not yoga, martial arts, Tai-chi.

    Regards,
    FranK.

  5. hi, i have my sun, Jupiter and north node in 12th in Sagittarius …

    someone (who did not even like me) once said that i am such a contented person …

    i consider my self truly blessed in every aspect…even when things go wrong, i can see the silver lining and the whole picture…its been like that for as long as i can remember…when i was little and even now i have a strong sense of god covering my back. certain intuitions about what i need to renounce and aspire guide me.

    i’m not shy and even if i am quite reserved,i am perceived by others to be very over-confident…

    i gave up my career when i was quite young and volunteered for free to help build one of the most effective animal welfare organizations where i achieved the most phenomenal and unprecedented break-throughs.

    maybe i should mention my moon is swakshetra in the 7th and mars too is swakshetra in the 11th. and jupiter swakshetra in the 12th.

    i have always had this belief that nothing bad will ever happen to me , nobody can harm me and that no matter what, i have the power to move mountains .

    the urge to renounce public acclaim and success is very strong as is the urge to help the downtrodden and weak and right the wrongs.

    if u need more pl mail me…
    thanks

    • Hi, Marieen, It sounds like you’re making beautiful use of that Saggitarian 12th house stellium. Did you read the article on this blog about Jupiter in the 12th? Donna

  6. its me again..i forgot to mention my relationship with my father…its tremendous and fulfilling and he’s always been the go to for me whenever i needed anything , even to this day( i’m 37 now)…i have 2 older brothers but i’ve always been his fav no matter however willful i got. he’s been a huge influence of honour and principle and pride.

  7. Thanks Donna! This is a great article. I have Sun in Gemini (Gemini cusp) in the 12th house, along with Venus in Cancer. After working with various spiritual disciplines, and reading about the 12th house, I’ve learned that planets in the 12th demand that we use them for service to humanity. Although I’m working on my soul purpose, it’s been a long journey!

  8. Hi All,
    I have a 12 house sun at 9 Scorpio conjunct Neptune at 8, and a rising of 13 Scorpio trine my 16 Cancer Mars in 8th- talk about not wanting to come out in the open with my psychic abilities – no one else in my family has the gift and I never feel as I am understood. But with Uranus in Leo on the MC and Pluto in the 10 Virgo I must come out in public Oh the anxieties lol

  9. Hello again..have always been on an ego trip about my 12th house Cap sun..thought I handled certain “difficulties assoc with 12th house” VERY WELL ..thank you very much ! have had a christian connection to God forged when I was very young..so my spiritual sense I almost take for granted.

    I agree the urge/need/compulsion to escape might never ebb and I struggle with that . the one thing I covet and do not question is need to be alone. i need to be alone like people need to breathe air.

    Finally I agree with Frank about new modern forms of exercise practice aND CHOICES. I love Pilates.
    Thanks!

  10. Hi,

    I have the sun, mercury, saturn and pluto in the 12th. I have the sun in libra but the rest in scorpio. It’s a little intense, if not in the real world then at least in my head! I’ve found that having a place to hide is KEY. Otherwise the bombardment of outside influence gets into me and i forget who i am. I need to have a safe place to work on ideas and personal things where no one can see hear or interupt me. Its purifying

    • Boy, can I relate! I call myself an urban hermit. That’s quite a stellium, and both Pluto and Saturn can create a powerful need for the healing of solitude. Check out the articles about stelliums on this blog. My newest project is an owner’s manual for stellium holders–just getting started. Donna

      • Thanks for the reply, will definitely check it out.

  11. Thanks for this article! I remember reading it some time ago I think… I’ve started being interested in progressions and it’s really informative.
    I have a 12th house Leo Sun at the very beginning of the 12th so technically it won’t be in the 1st until years.
    But I was wondering though if it’s about to go through the natal 1st house/conjunct the natal ascendant, could it be interpreted as having the same effects or it is completely different?


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