©6-22-2010 by Donna Cunningham, MSW
We’ve been celebrating Mercury for the past 10 days or so with a series of articles that invited readers to ask questions and make comments on Mercury and its aspects. They kept coming back to Mercury-Saturn influences in various combinations, and I finally noticed that a Mercury-Saturn square was forming in the sky.
People often sense and respond to transiting aspects that repeat features of their own charts–and I mean regular people, not just us weirdoes who look at the ephemeris more often than the daily newspaper.
These are the ways that you might see a Mercury-Saturn influence in your own chart, listed in order of their strength:
- Mercury-Saturn hard aspects (conjunction, square and opposition)
- Mercury 10° conjunction to the Midheaven in either the 9th or 10th
- Saturn in the 3rd, especially within 10 degrees of the IC
- Mercury-Saturn trine less compelling, minor aspects just a smidgeon
- Gemini on the Midheaven
- Mercury in 10th, not conjunct the Midheaven
- Mercury in Capricorn
- Capricorn planets in the 3rd
- Capricorn on the 3rd cusp, no planets there
Here are readers’ comments and my responses about Mercury-Saturn chart connections from various articles, preserved so future readers can learn from them:
A reader writes, “I have Saturn conjunct Mercury and have never really considered myself a mercurial type but after reading your descriptions, I guess that I am… just in a low key way. I’ve been an astrologer/counselor for 30 years and have always been studying something (Enneagram, ACIM, Spanish, etc). I just didn’t relate to the quickness and social lightness of Mercury.”
My reply: Ah, well, Saturn-Mercury aspects are a different breed of mercurial. I find myself rather in awe of them, for they are the true scholars. I’ve had several clients with this aspect over the years who had Ph.Ds. and yet were convinced they were stupid…an inferiority complex that was often related to a father or older brother who was brilliant.
One of them–a therapy client–was even a PhD candidate in physics and a teaching assistant in a major university, and when she tried to explain to me what her thesis was about, my eyes crossed.
It’s also associated with classical piano and with scientists like Albert Einstein who play the piano.
You know the story of Albert Einstein, right? He had a close Mercury-Saturn conjunction in early Aries. He was born with a misshapen head, didn’t talk until he was three, and was considered retarded when he started school.
Incidentally, the charts of famous dead people still get activated by transits. I saw a story on 60 minutes the other day about an agency that represents dead celebrities–the copyrights and royalties for their estates. And they said that Einstein is bigger than ever in popularity, especially since he was named the most influential Person of the 20th Century by Time Magazine.
I wonder what new developments we will hear about him and his work with his natal Mercury-Saturn conjunction being set off by the transiting Jupiter-Uranus conjunction and the transiting t-square of Pluto-Saturn-Uranus. Perhaps we’ll have important new inventions based on his work or some of his theories will be proven. (See a link to his chart and bio in AstroDataBank here: Einstein, Albert .)
Another reader describes her Mercury-Saturn conjunction in Virgo: “I have the Mercury/Saturn conjunction you just mentioned, in Virgo in the 12th. I will admit to being a crack shot information miner and researcher. I know no one better at it.
“I was Phi Beta Kappa in college. However, I have yet to finish a full college degree. If you add up all my credits in different areas, I am sure it should amount to some sort of a Master’s by sheer course credit volume! I DO feel that whatever I do is never, ever quite good or perfect or professional enough. I have constant amateurism syndrome despite abundant talent and lots of experience. This has been, along with a constant struggle to avoid depression, the curse of that Mercury configuration.”
To a reader who thought a Mercury-Saturn square was too challenging: Mercury square Saturn IS challenging but often self-challenging, in that this type can be a true scholar who takes on very difficult advanced subjects, so naturally their struggle to master their studies is harder.
One odd trait I’ve noticed is that many Mercury-Saturn squares mispronounce words and don’t learn the correct pronunciation from hearing others use them. My theory on this is that they don’t have many educated people around themselves, especially growing up, but have an interest in higher learning, so they primarily pick up these words from reading them in books. They guess at the pronunciation and get fixated on a wrong one, and when they finally meet others with the same interest, don’t notice that their pronunciation is different.
To a reader with a 3rd house stellium about an upcoming Saturn transit to the 3rd house: We continue to develop different facets of ourselves and our chart throughout life, so the young 3rd house stellium might be the perpetual student or “jack of all trades.” Under a longer, stronger transit of an outer planet through the 3rd or to a 3rd house planet (or Mercury) such individuals might then be drawn to write about their topic of interest. I had been writing lots of articles about astrology for several years, but when Saturn transited my 3rd (for the first time), I was asked to expand the articles into a book, and that was the first of many books.
A reader gives a case example of Saturn in the 3rd: “I have Saturn in Sag in the 3rd house. Although I consider myself pretty intelligent, I have always had trouble speaking. When I was in 5th grade, I had a stuttering problem, which still manifests from time to time.
However, when I do speak, I usually get myself in trouble, as I am blunt and to the point. Also, I have three half-brothers, one of whom I only knew when he was a baby, and two whom I only met when I was 30. The latter two had a hard life growing up (Saturn).”
Mercury-Saturn gets better with age! Saturnian types tend to be late bloomers in the areas of life Saturn touches.
A reader writes: “I have a strong Mercury-Saturn signature, and have found that my writing (poetry) has slowly, yet steadily improved over the years. And somehow, I’ve always known I was working towards a certain level and have been patient with myself.
“That’s something I’ve started to love about Saturn: the rewards after the climb. Who doesn’t want to get better with age? I hate friends telling me it’s all going to be downhill from here. Are you kidding me? I’m just getting started!”
A reader asks: If you have a close major aspect between Mercury and Saturn (conjunction, square, or opposition) and Mercury is your rising planet, is the aspect or effect doubled or otherwise highlighted? Who “wins”? Mercury or Saturn?
Answer: In any aspect, really, but certainly in this one, you’d have to figure out which of the two planets was stronger. The planetary tests on this site give some of the factors involved in making a planet strong, so you might find some answers that way. Here, you’d take the test for Saturn and the test for Mercury. There are links to those tests below.
Mercury conjunct the Midheaven: The 10th house cusp (a.k.a. the Midheaven) is actually a power point in the chart, and any planet within about 10 degrees of it–even in the 9th–is a strong vocational indicator. On the Mercury test on this blog, Mercury conjunct the MH gets 10 points. What it can indicate is a career in communication, sales, writing, or anything of a Mercurial nature. There’s much more to read about Mercury and Gemini in the 10th as a career indicator here: Cosmic Piñata #5—Mercurial Morsels
Readers, do you or someone close to you have a Mercury-Saturn aspect or connection? Tell us how it plays out in the comment section.
UPDATE: In our explorations of the minor aspects, a huge surprise was in how many readers with “minor” aspects between Mercury and Saturn had exactly the same dynamics as people with “major” aspects between these two. Read the comment sections in these articles:
- Understanding Septiles–Your Input Needed
- Understanding Semisquares—Your Input Needed
- Understanding the Sesquiquadrate—Your Input Needed
- The Not so Minor Aspects—Results of Our Research
LOST BROTHERS AND SISTERS: Several people have written in to say that they had half or step siblings they didn’t get to know until later. CJ Wright of Auntie Moon wants birth data from people who were adopted or who spent periods of time in their childhood where they were in foster care or lived with adults other than their parents ~ grandparents, other relatives, families of friends, childrens’ homes, or other environments, to see what placements go along with those experiences. I’m guessing that an outer planet near the IC is one signature, but I could be off. See the announcement at http://auntiemoon.wordpress.com/2010/06/26/research-on-adopted-or-foster-kids/ and write to her at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Related Posts on Skywriter:
- How Strong is your Saturn? Here’s the Score!
- How Strong is your Mercury? Here’s the Score!
- Four Kinds of Smart–Which One Are You?
- Readers Ask: Q & A about Mercury, Gemini, and the 3rd House
- Things You May Not Know about the 3rd and 12th Houses
- Viewing the 3rd House through Neptune’s Lens
- Understanding Mercury Aspects to the Moon
- Understanding Mercury-Pluto Combinations
- Understanding Mercury-Uranus Combinations—It’s DIY Time!
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