©1-16-2010, revised 5/2012 by Donna Cunningham, MSW
Would you be considered a Plutonian person? You would if Pluto, the sign Scorpio, and the 8th house are strong in your birth chart. Below is a test to give these chart features a score and then a description of what that score says about you. While there aren’t any scientific measurements of a planet’s strength, I’ve assigned number scores to certain chart factors, based on 40 years of doing charts professionally. (Note: you’re not alone in your curiosity. This test is Skywriter’s most popular post of all times, with over 24,000 people taking the test as of 5/2012. If you check out the comments, when people post their scores, it’s hard to tell if they’re bragging or complaining!)
This test is one of a series of tests of the strength of all the planets in your astrology chart. It assigns point values to various chart features. (In order to find these elements of a chart, you’d need to be at least an intermediate student or know one who can do it for you.) In each of the categories below, add the total score of all the factors that apply to that item, and write the total on the blank. Then add all the items up to find out how your Pluto ranks. Apparently people are eager to find out how strong their Pluto is. Ths test remains the top post on Skywriter, with over 20,000 people taking the test as of 1/1/12.
Orbs for aspects: 8° for a conjunction or opposition, up to 6° for a square or trine, 3° for minor aspects. The only exception would be a conjunction or opposition to the Midheaven or Ascendant, and, using the Gauquelin research, that’s 10°. Minor aspects include the sextile, septile, semisextile, quincunx, quintile, semisquare, and sesquiquadrate.
Here’s the Test:
____ Pluto conjunct, square, trine, or opposite the Sun, Moon, Ascendant, or Midheaven, 10 points each.
____ Pluto conjunct, square, trine, or opposite other planets, 5 points each.
____ Pluto in minor aspect to the Sun, Moon, or other planets, 2 points each.
____ Sun, Moon, or Midheaven in Scorpio, 5 points each. Ascendant (chart ruler) 10 points.
____BONUS: Pluto in Scorpio or the 8th, Scorpio on the cusp of the 8th, 5 points each
____ Other planets in Scorpio, 3 points each.
____ Sun or Moon in the 8th house, 5 points each.
____ Other 8th house planets, 3 points each.
____BONUS: Part of a major configuration like a stellium, T-square, or Grand Trine, 5.
____ Add 2-5 points for each other factor you consider important, such as Pluto aspects to the nodes or having a Node or Part of Fortune in Scorpio or the 8th. Specify.
____Total. 0-15 low, 16-25 moderate. 26-40 strong. Over 40, off the charts! Some readers have scored as high as 80! (If you were born with the Pluto-Uranus conjunction of the 1960s, do both tests to find out which of the pair influences you most.)
What does Being a Plutonian Mean?
Pluto has a wide range of expressions. At the unevolved level, Plutonians can engage in manipulating or coercing others, abuses of power, battles for control, resentments and grievances, failing for spite, and being a target of other people’s projections.
At the evolved level, the expressions can include transforming, healing, and empowering themselves and people and conditions they care about. Plutonians can have a natural gift for psychology, the healing arts, and understanding what makes people tick.
Pluto Issues: Power and control, trust, to discover and analyze what lies beneath the surface and eliminate the undesirable, separateness, holding on to things or feelings, revenge, death and endings, rebirth, healing, and transformation.
Worldly matters associated with Pluto/Scorpio: healing, psychology, sexuality, wealth, uses and abuses of power, corruption and dirty dealing, secrets, exposes, occult, death and the afterlife, national and personal debt, stocks.
Examples of Plutonian occupations: psychotherapist, healer, medium, past life therapist, researcher, grief counselor, OB/GYN staff, cancer treatment, sex therapist, insurance agent, financial planner, stock broker.
Interpreting your Scores—ARE you a Plutonian?
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o brief interpretation can fully explore Pluto’s status in an individual chart, but below are some qualities you might find in someone who has a strong Pluto vs. one with few supporting chart features. (You’ll find more detailed interpretations in my hardcopy book, Healing Pluto Problems. Kindle version at Amazon.com.)
If you had a high score, you’re an over-achiever in the matters of Pluto: You’re probably a Plutonian and therefore extremely strong in some the qualities listed above—the positive ones, the negative ones, or more likely both ends of the spectrum at once. You may alternate between isolation and being joined at the hip in obsessive relationships; in the worst of times, you could be controlling; mistrustful; emotional intensity; bitter, vengeful. And/or you may be dedicated to healing yourself, and as you learn how to do that, can become a natural healer and catalyst in the lives of people around you.
If you had a low score, you may be an under-achiever in the matters of Pluto: If your score is down in the single digits, you may be lacking in some of the qualities listed above. You may not often look deeply within and may be missing important psychological insights that could help you change undesirable patterns. When you have a bad setback, you may take longer to mobilize yourself to come back from it.
On the bright side, you’re probably pretty easy going and not likely to carry grudges or harbor plans for revenge. Until you’re challenged by Pluto transits—like the Pluto-Uranus-Saturn cardinal t-square of 2010-12, you might not give a rat’s behind about transforming your self or your world.
Example of a Plutopalooza: Actor Matt Damon, who has 3 planets in Scorpio, 4 planets in the 8th house, and a Grand trine that involves Pluto, is a big time Plutonian with a score of 50. (See his chart, birth information, and bio here: Damon, Matt)
Plutopalooza Update: Apparently Skywriter has readers who make Matt Damon look like a punk. One reader had a score of 73! Check out the comments section–we had a Pluto party here today!
So, folks, how did you do? Were the test results accurate about you and your loved ones? This is a new and simplified version of some of my older tests, so you’re my beta testers. Tell me how it went in the comments section.
Finding out More about Pluto
There’s much more to our frigid, distant neighbor than we can cover in one short post–in fact, it’s a recurring theme here on Skywriter. Pluto has been one of my specialties over the years, and here are some of my books and articles that deal with it in detail:
My hard copy book, Healing Pluto Problems, may be my best-selling book of all time. It’s available through RedWheel/Weiser at 1-800-423-7087.
Several of my ebooks at Moon Maven Publications contain chapters about Pluto. Ebooks are $15, or 3 for $35 when you order three at once:
- There’s a chapter about Pluto in the career houses—the 2nd, 6th, and 10th—in The Outer Planets as Vocational Indicators (The Outer Planets and Inner Life, v.1)
- There are separate chapters about Venus-Pluto and Mars-Pluto aspects in Outer Planet Aspects to Venus and Mars. (The Outer Planets and Inner Life, v.2)
- Aspects between the Outer Planets: (The Outer Planets and Inner Life, v.3) has chapters devoted to Pluto-Saturn and Pluto-Uranus aspects.
- My classic text, An Astrological Guide to Self-Awareness, completely updated in 2004, contains a long chapter about Pluto.
This test is part of a series of similar tests about the outer planets. When you’re done with Pluto, you might also enjoy these tests:
- How Strong is your Moon? Here’s the Score?
- How Strong is your Mercury? Here’s the Score!
- How Strong is your Saturn? Here’s the Score!
- How Strong is your Uranus? Here’s the Score!
- How Strong is your Neptune? Here’s the Score!
The collection of 17 articles about Pluto transits for the Blogathon can be found at Online : Pluto Problems Got You Perplexed? Here’s What Helps! And a list of all the articles about Pluto on this blog can be found here: PlutoPaloozas, Here’s Plenty of Pluto Posts!
More Posts about Pluto on this Blog:
- 6 Things You May Not Know about Pluto
- Pluto in the Career Houses–The Power to Manifest or Fail for Spite
- Career Challenges for the Pluto-Uranus in Virgo Generation
- Healing Tools For Plutonians: Transforming The Self And Others
- Astrological Clues to Resilience—the Houses as Havens after Trauma
- Purge Yourself of Pluto’s Negativity—Get Free of Bitterness
- Pluto in Capricorn: A Laugh and a Half, by John Marchesella
- How the Pluto-Saturn Square may Affect People born with that Aspect
- The Steamy Side of Venus-Pluto Aspects—A Photo Gallery
- High Maintenance–a Venus-Pluto Vignette
- Mars-Pluto Aspects? Use your Manifestation Mojo!
About the Author: Donna Cunningham is an internationally-respected author of books, articles, and columns about astrology, flower essences and other metaphysical topics. Her insights reflect her dual background in astrology and psychotherapy. She has a Master’s degree in Social Work from Columbia University and over 40 years of experience in working with people. Her ebooks can be found at Moon Maven Publications (http://www.moonmavenpublications.com) Visit her blog at http://skywriter.wordpress.com.
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Hi Donna, thanks for another brilliant post (I read them all!). I’m a 32, so pretty Plutonian. Since transiting Pluto has been conjunct my 8th house Sun, I’ve become a little obsessed with him, though I’m doing my best, I hope, to express the healing qualities of Pluto. I’m attracting a lot of Plutonian people in my life at the moment as well, friends as well as colleagues. I’m in a relatively new job and would you believe that nearly a third of the people there are Scorpios?! Your excellent book Healing Pluto Problems is currently beside my bed (for a little light bedtime reading – LOL)
Thanks again, Mandi
By: Mandi on January 16, 2010
at 4:42 am
HI, Mandi, I’m glad you like my Pluto material. I’ve been visiting your blog, Mandilockley.Blogspot.com and particularly liked your post about Saturn Retrograde in Libra: relationship revision time. I was wondering if you’d permit me to reprint it here with you as a guest blogger. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 5:31 am
Hi Donna, thank you for reading my blog and absolutely yes please go ahead and reprint the Saturn Retrograde blog. Thank you for your support, it’s very much appreciated. Mandi
By: Mandi on January 16, 2010
at 7:52 am
Hi;
I’m a 32
And that without counting the semisquare to the sun and the square to the North Node.
“Until you’re challenged by Pluto transits—like the Pluto-Uranus-Saturn cardinal t-square of 2010-12, you might not give a rat’s behind about transforming your self or your world.”
So, I’m guessing, those who are Plutonian will have an “easier” time? Oh, goody :p
I like these little gems of astrological knowledge that you share.
By: Dunya on January 16, 2010
at 7:30 am
HI, Dunya. I would surely count the semisquare to the Sun, because the Sun is such a core part of who you are, so your score is probably at least 34. I tell you, this blog has quite a community of Plutonians around it! Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 10:57 am
39 here..and that works fine, goes well with my life path of 3.
Great article Donna, thank you!
By: kachina on January 16, 2010
at 10:40 am
Thanks for this, Donna! I scored a 48 — wowzers. Thankfully I tend to channel the higher expression of Pluto.
By: katie on January 16, 2010
at 11:26 am
This was a very interesting post, thanks.
I guess I’m an uber-Plutonian with a score of 54…other house systems rate me even higher…and that’s not counting any semi-sextiles or quincunxes…you are so right when you say both ends of the spectrum at once…it’s a very deep place to swim and it can get tiring at times, as I’m always a work in progress; rebuilding, transforming…I always say, next life I want it easy.
By: Julie on January 16, 2010
at 12:41 pm
My word, Katie and Julie, I had no idea scores like that were possible!! Impressive! Are you both part of the group born in the 1970s with multiple planets conjunct Neptune or Uranus in Scorpio?
But wait, as I scan the rest of the comments, I can see you’re not alone. This isn’t a blog group, we’re a coven! A coven of superheroes and heroines, I hope. Imagine if we had an online convention? After the International Astrology Day Blog Carnival in March, that ought to be our next project. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 3:23 pm
Hi Donna…I’m born in 1968, with no Scorpio except a Midheaven and generational Neptune. Pluto aspects and the 8th house make up the rest.
What a great idea to have an online convention…I’d probably just lurk, but it’d be fascinating!
By: Julie on January 16, 2010
at 5:46 pm
Yes, 1967-68 births would have been my next guess. There was a cats cradle of outer planet aspects between Pluto and Uranus in Virgo, Saturn and Chiron in Pisces and Neptune in Scorpio shared by pretty much everyone born in those years, and then if the inner planets, Sun, Moon, Ascendant, or Midheaven were tied in to those planets, the scores would be through the roof.
LOL! Lurk indeed, that might be one of the problems–nobody would talk to each other and the name tags would all be blank. I once tried to join a Plutonians Anonymous group, but no one would tell me where they met. (Smiley face) Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 5:53 pm
I’m another of the standard issue 1968 North Americans with Pluto-conjunct Uranus [who is with Jupiter nowadays in 2011] …according to your test I have 40 pluto points due to having a strong aspect with Sun, and Moon and yet another with the Ascendant, plus minor aspects.
Puzzled, trying to figure out what that means. ….Am I making too much of it, or not enough?
By: Miriam Pia on February 13, 2011
at 9:08 am
Welcome to Skywriter, Miriam. I’ve written quite a lot about the Pluto-Uranus complex in my book, The Outer Planets and Inner Life, volume 3: Aspects between the Outer Planets, but you can see an excerpt about its career implications here: http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/vocational-angst-for-the-pluto-uranus-in-virgo-generation/ Regards, Donna Cunningham
By: Donna Cunningham on February 13, 2011
at 12:05 pm
As always, Donna, great article! Pluto is close to my n 12th cusp affecting 11th and 12th so mea culpa here!
Also I happily inform you that SkyWriter is a recipient of a Kreativ Blogger Award (hope i got you first!) which may be ‘picked up’ at Stars Over Washington is in today’s post (1/16/10). Donna, I hope you have a chance to participate!
Congratulations, Jude
ps: yes, i’d love to set up an Art Gallery @ Secret Moon Art in honor of your Astrology Blog Carnival in March, thanks for asking! jc
By: Jude Cowell on January 16, 2010
at 1:11 pm
Wow on the award! Will go see it. I feel like blogging is really freeing up my creativity in a way that writing to assignment for the magazines never did. I love it. And I am so psyched that you’re going to do a gallery showing for the Blog Carnival Auntie Moon and I are hosting for International Astrology Day. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 3:59 pm
Important Question: Does Chiron count as a planet in this test? I have Chiron opposing Pluto, which would add 5 points to my score.
By: Raven on January 16, 2010
at 1:25 pm
Another Pluto (in Virgo) opposing Chiron wondering same.
By: Laura on January 16, 2010
at 2:58 pm
Yes, of course you can use Chiron. That aspect may be a generational one, though. Both Pluto and Chiron are very slow moving and hence everyone born on the planet within a month to 6 weeks of you that year would have it…millions of people, so I’d be more inclined to give it only a couple of points, like a write-in vote. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 3:29 pm
So which score would be correct for me? It’s 32 without Chiron and 37 with Chiron.
By: Raven on January 16, 2010
at 8:15 pm
37. However, if Pluto makes aspects to the Ascendant or Midheaven, there are points for that too.
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 8:35 pm
Also, both are in angular houses in my case–Pluto in the 4th and Chiron in the 10th.
By: Raven on January 16, 2010
at 8:37 pm
i am a total lightweight!!
one planet sextiling Pluto.. no, two… and one planet in the 8th house. call me butterfly….
By: mimi on January 16, 2010
at 1:25 pm
oh i had to check my scorpio son.. Eeek 25 and my husband too.
maybe that’s why my score is so low!
By: mimi on January 16, 2010
at 1:31 pm
From previous comments, you don’t strike me as Pluto-challenged, Mimi, but perhaps it’s a blessing, living with 2 Plutonians like that. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 3:31 pm
Wow, I scored a 40. I had no idea. But my Pluto square to Sun/Moon conjunct has always scared me.
By: Charles on January 16, 2010
at 2:05 pm
That’s one hefty Pluto, Charles, I’ll agree. Even with those aspects to your Sun and Moon, you could stop right there, an automatic Plutonian.
I learned of my strong Pluto within months of starting to take astrology classes over 40 years ago. (Nobody really knew much about what Pluto meant in those days, it was so long ago.) And I’ve spent a lifetime learning how to use it..not always well even now, but I do rein myself in pretty sharply at the first twinge of it acting up.
Sometimes I think that despite all these years of working so hard on myself, I’m still the same person I was then. In those trying moments, I console myself that at the very least, I’ve learned not to perpetrate it on other people. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 3:36 pm
I always thought of myself as primarily Taurus, having sun/moon/mercury in Taurus. It’s hard to reconcile my earth-of-earth nature with plutonian (and neptunian) energies in my chart. You can view it here, if you’re interested:
http://i.imgur.com/8eQFW.gif
I am a little disturbed to have discovered my astro program uses a rather large orb, so a lot of those aspects aren’t quite accurate.
Anyway, I guess I never learned to deal with my plutonian energy so I am going through your saturn-pluto articles now. I read it once before, but I didn’t think it applied that much to me. Now I know better. This has been a hard time for me with this hard aspect.
By: Charles on January 16, 2010
at 4:02 pm
Yes, you surely are well-grounded, and perhaps that New Moon in Taurus keeps you from going too deep into a Plutonian murk. It’s a lovely New Moon. I’m sure there are things that can override the strength of Pluto–the Sun and Moon are such central parts of our core Being. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 4:08 pm
Thanks for your comments. There’s a lot of sun-moon action in my chart (especially that SatRx-JupRx yod to sun-moon conjunct. I suspect it counterbalances the plutonian stuff.
By: Charles on January 16, 2010
at 4:17 pm
26…Thank you for this post. Very helpful. I have a better understanding for me obsession/passion for creating mandalas for people to color.
When I had my art shop, I found that I provided ‘counseling’ more than I sold artwork. I should have posted Lucy’s “Psychiatric Help 5¢” sign outside my door
By: The Mandala Lady on January 16, 2010
at 2:25 pm
Well well, I scored a 73! I’ve always known I was Plutonian, but to see it displayed so plainly in a score really brings it home.
I use to live in the negative aspects, but now have swung over to cultivating the positive (hopefully with success). All I can say is, Intense!
By: Inaness on January 16, 2010
at 2:25 pm
A 73???? You must be the all-time, Guiness book of records holder for a Pluto score. In living your healing, you are accomplishing miracles. About my sister’s life, Plutonian in the extreme, I often console myself by saying that in choosing this lifetime, she’s taken out a karmic bill-payer’s loan, wiping out all her debt in just one life span. You must be another like her. Gutsy choice, Inaness. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 3:57 pm
Thanks Donna. I use to wonder why everything seemed more difficult and extreme in my life as opposed to others I knew. Now it all makes sense. But by knowing why it actually eases the intensity, since part of it was the unknown factor..and second guessing myself.
My aspects are: Moon, Mars, Saturn, Ascendant conjunct Pluto; Mercury, Venus, Midheaven square Pluto; Sun trine Pluto; Neptune sextile Pluto; Jupiter in Scorpio, and Scorpio Rising.
Whats funny is, my Jupiter is in the first house, and I’m an Aquarius so people either see me in my light jovial mood, or as an intimidating figure..lol.
Also I want to thank you for all your extensive work on Pluto, its very illuminating. I’ve ordered your Healing from Pluto Problems book, and am looking forward to reading it and digging deeper.
By: Inaness on January 16, 2010
at 4:20 pm
I’m glad if it helps, Inaness. I was much reassured in an odd way when I found out about my Pluto in those very early days of my studies. Kind of like finally knowing that you aren’t alone, that there are others like oneself. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 4:51 pm
Yes, exactly Donna. Its comforting to know that the extremeness and random dramatic run in’s was not a figment of my imagination, but a manifestation of something larger that others experienced as well – that I was not alone. This knowledge has helped me get outside of myself to see the bigger picture. I believe the feelings of isolation are also intensified by my Pluto, Moon, Mars, Saturn 12th House placement.
By: Inaness on January 16, 2010
at 10:37 pm
That’s the hardest of it, I think, the sense of isolation we Plutonians have…and the secrets–especially family secrets–we feel compelled to keep to ourselves make that and the shame about them so much more isolating. But yes, add the 12th house in, and you’ve got some serious isolation issues. Maybe when we have that Pluto convention we’re joking about, we should vote on some sort of secret signal or emblem that would identify us to each other. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 12:43 am
“Maybe when we have that Pluto convention we’re joking about, we should vote on some sort of secret signal or emblem that would identify us to each other. Donna”
Yes! A convention would be awesome. I wonder how a large gathering of Plutonians will be like 0.o Maybe we can have the Pluto symbol on a pin that we wear..now I’m daydreaming.
“How come all you folks are so eager to amp up your Pluto scores. ”
They can have some of mine! I’ll gladly share.
By: Inaness on January 17, 2010
at 9:14 am
Donna,
my pluto is conjunct my MC within 20″, and my score is 35
and I only want to make one point and that is everyone in my immediate family has similar. Both my children have have Pluto on angles (one on DSC the other on the IC) and the youngest who had Pluto on her IC actually did replace her father as he wanted me to abort her but I chose to have her and get rid of him. And she was born on his birthday 24th Oct at 0 degree Scorpio(I couldnt make this up!).
Pluto is a Karmic planet and not so hard for me with a Scottish / Irish inheritance to deal with as we have mostly lost our addiction to Hope!
Pema Chodron talks a lot about it,
you in the US define yourself by hope and optimism, and we who live in the Western world may not buy into it (unless your a banker ….) but we enjoy the benefits of it.
Pluto in Cap probably will for most US Neptunians be a big shock but surely they need it! (BTW I also have Nep in Scorpio conjunct my ASC so Im only taking from experience). However it is my view after 25 years of being in the ‘alternative’ so called new age movement it truly does need a reality check.
yeh Im a Plutonian. Pluto / Neptune Sextile on my angle, & yes I can see clearly that so much crap needs to be cleaned out. No bad thing.
love you Donna, your work and your blog is genius and better completely inspirational.
best wishes
Lesley
By: Niyati on January 16, 2010
at 2:27 pm
Hi, Lesley, Planetary emphasis does run in families, and most of all, it does seem like Plutonians begat Plutonians….or maybe just create them by default out of the experience of growing up around them. I love Pema Chodrom too. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 3:53 pm
lol Love that comment about addiction to hope! There’s a warped Pluto sense of humor comment. It certainly seems true. There’s that place where, when one has given up all hope, then true freedom arrives.
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 12:29 pm
I’m a 37, so I guess I can still call myself the Plutonian Princess! LOL!!!! Nice to know there’s a bunch of us.
By: Jill on January 16, 2010
at 2:30 pm
Holy crap! A 46 – I guess I count as a “Plutopalooza” too! As a Gemini Sun/Sag Moon/Libra Asc. with heavy T-squares in 3 of my Cadent Houses (3rd,9th,12th) I welcome the depth that having a emphasized natal Pluto can give. Pluto is rx conj. my Asc. and (along with Mars) is one of the only “well-aspected” planets in a chart rife with squares and oppositions.
I’ve always laughed about it though, and said that if it weren’t for the “stessful” aspects in my chart, I wouldn’t have any at all! The Pluto in me doesn’t mind the challenge and has used the obstacles presented in such a chart as an opportunity to build stregnth of character. Thanks for doing the quiz, Donna – it was interesting and fun to play along!
P.S. – I LOVE your Pluto-Saturn Preparedness Kit! I almost peed myself laughing when I read how “Fun” and “Easy” it was going to be! Well, I’m off now to go find myself an industrial-sized tub of elbow grease…..
By: Alethea on January 16, 2010
at 3:33 pm
LOL, Alethea, about the tub of elbow grease! Great attitude. I always say that the two things I love most about Plutonians are:
1) that when they find a way to heal themselves they do not flinch and do not quit until they’ve done it, and
2) that they have this incredibly warped sense of humor. I grew up around warped, and when someone accuses me of having one myself, I introduce them to my sister.
I ought to do a quotes page just of her goodies. Like, after one close call of the many Near Death Experiences she has had, I finally got up the nerve to ask her, “Ahem, what do you want us to do when you die?”
She: “Are you asking me what to do with my body after I croak?”
Me: “ummmm. Yes.”
She: “Just shake me and bake me.”
So, yep, that’s where I got my warped outlook on things. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 3:45 pm
For a very respectable Libra Sun-Moon lady with Venus in the first house, I have 35 pts. LOL Just goes to show there is usually more going on behind a pleasant, smiling face than we often realize!
Plus over many years, Pluto has conjoined my Midheaven, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Ascendant by transit. Guess that counts for something too since I’m still here to talk about it!
Definitely share the warped sense of humor . . . :::grin:::
By: Diane L on January 16, 2010
at 5:12 pm
Not too shabby, Diane. I’m starting to feel like a poseur with my piddling 29 point Pluto. Donna
PS. After seeing some of the questions below, I realized missed my Pluto/Mercury semisquare, so my total is now 31. Maybe I should check the contraparallells and antiscia. (Joke)
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 5:39 pm
Too funny, the Plutonians wouldn’t speak, just lurk around the shadows and under the rocks. This is why I love hanging around with non-Plutonians…they bring me out from underground, even if it’s only for awhile.
I’ve got a bunch of conjunctions in an 8th/9th house Virgo stellium from my September 1968 birth…all squaring a Sag Ascendant…plus an 8th house Moon/Mars in Leo…good thing for astrology, it’s been my road map to understanding myself…many a tattered book sit on my shelf (including yours). Like I said before, next life, I want it easy!
By: Julie on January 16, 2010
at 6:55 pm
Score: 23
Hi Donna – Very interesting article! Thank you! Do you think Pluto in the 1st could also be considered in the score as well?
By: Jangle on January 16, 2010
at 8:41 pm
Only if it is conjunct the Ascendant within 10 degrees or less, in which case it would recieve 10 points. (Same if it squared the Midheaven) Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 16, 2010
at 8:46 pm
Thank you so much Donna! Love your blog, it’s so very helpful.
By: Jangle on January 17, 2010
at 3:28 pm
i scored a 32..a bit lower than i thought, but still respectable.
i did have a couple of questions tho. does having north node in the 8th house or pluto conjunct the ic count for anything?
thanx for the test, i’m going to pass it on to my friends.
By: rachael on January 16, 2010
at 9:42 pm
I think yes to both. A conjunction to the IC is the same as an opposition to the MH, so add 10 points for that and maybe 3 points for the North Node in the 8th, which would make you 45 points–a candidate for the Pluto Hall of fame. But not quite Guiness Book of Records like our Inaness here. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 12:47 am
donna, thanx for your response!
seems i did forget i have pluto oppose chiron, so that’s another two points? 47.
inaness…that score! amazing. i’d love to watch you walk into a crowded room
By: rachael on January 17, 2010
at 9:54 am
I scored 46, but I have to say, there were times in my life when I felt like Matt Damon and then some! Pluto square ASC keeps Pluto “in my face,” and the combo of Pluto square Chiron has forced deep change and facing my inner demons from a very young age. Jupiter in Scorpio seems responsible for my love of depth research as a writer.
Every time I think about astronomers demoting this planet, I have a big laugh. If you don’t pay homage to it, Pluto is Darth Vader. When you do, it’s Harry Potter and magic all around you.
By: Joyce Mason on January 16, 2010
at 11:31 pm
“If you don’t pay homage to it, Pluto is Darth Vader. When you do, it’s Harry Potter and magic all around you.”
Joyce, that’s a quotable quote that I’ll use when I create a page of Pluto quotations. Which come to think of it, I ought to do now while Pluto is such a hot topic on the blogs. You know, I’ve known you–well–for 25 years and I never would have pegged you for a Plutonian. I guess you are the jolliest, most even tempered Plutonian in all Creation. But you do have the strength to bear up under immense pressure and difficulties that would crush another, and that’s primetime Pluto. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 12:36 am
hello, i scored 42, but i didnt find any points to add for my pluto sextile asc
By: nemessis on January 17, 2010
at 2:26 am
Big score! The sextile would be scored under minor aspects, so 2 points. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 5:20 am
can i add the sesquiquadrate to mars as minor aspect?
By: nemessis on January 17, 2010
at 7:12 am
Totally, and in fact I bet Mars would get kinda ticked off if you didn’t. BTW, I don’t know if you’ve seen it or not, but I have an article on the site about Mars-Pluto aspects and their manifestation mojo that you might like. It would work with the sesquadrate, too, you just might not have as much patience with the process as a conjunction would.
Hmm, now I’m remembering that I have a semisquare between Pluto and Mercury, so my score is 31 rather than 29. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 7:22 am
so i add 2 points for pluto sextile asc and another 3 points for nn in 8th,thats 47 points…the problem is that i dont know where to look for my mars pluto aspect, this trioctile is acting more like a square ?
By: nemessis on January 17, 2010
at 9:34 am
Well, I wouldn’t know where yours is either–you’re the one who said it was sesquiquadrate. That’s a 135 degree aspect, where Mars would be either in the zodiac ahead of Pluto or behind it. Yes, semisquares (45 degrees–half a square) and sesquiquadrates (135 degrees–a square and a half) are in the square family, but with a bit more spikey irritability because of frustration about getting the doggone things to work. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 9:48 am
i wrote something but is way up there on the page. i ment that i dont know where to look for the trioctile interpretation , at the square? by the way, i have a decile between pluto and uranus, i add 2 points for this too? lol
By: nemessis on January 17, 2010
at 10:13 am
I answered that too, in the same reply. Yes, semisquares (45 degrees–half a square) and sesquiquadrates (135 degrees–a square and a half) are in the square family, but with a bit more spikey irritability because of frustration about getting the doggone things to work.
That’s about the extent of what any astrologer knows (or cares) about these exceedingly minor aspects. Some things you have to figure out for yourself, observe in action. Think of what Mars is, for example, think of what Pluto is, and then think of what they’d be like in combination. Then you try to notice those particular qualities in operation in your life.
FYI, folks, the rules here are that I don’t interpret individual charts on this blog, just points of information. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 12:41 pm
i just wanted to explain exactly what i ment , nothing more. i didn find many clues about this trioctile aspect, so i thought you can point me some infos.thank you.
p.s.: i am not a native english speaker, i might express myself a little weird..:)
By: nemessis on January 17, 2010
at 1:47 pm
I see. I mean, I finally saw once I had dragged out my hand calculator to figure out what a trioctile is. No, no, Pluto high scorers, do not get excited that there’s perhaps one more minor aspect you could add to the total. A trioctile is apparently what they call a sesquiquadrate in her country. No info, sorry. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 2:06 pm
well, 47 is enough, with pluto on my mc, trine sun and square moon, i am pretty much a plutonian. yes,trioctile is sesquiquadrate.no problem, what you already have told me is great.:)
By: nemessis on January 17, 2010
at 2:11 pm
What about a semi-sextile? Is that of about the same significance as a sesquiquadrate?
By: Raven on January 17, 2010
at 9:38 pm
HI, Raven, I do pay quite a lot of attention to semisextiles and find them more significant than semisquares and sesquiquadrates. There’s an article of mine about semisextiles somewhere on this blog that will fill you in about them. Try putting “semisextile” into the search engine, and it should show up. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 10:39 pm
hi , donna ! i saw you have a tattoo on your right shoulder, is that a pluto effect too? i have 4
By: nemessis on January 18, 2010
at 2:00 am
LOL! No that’s not me with the dyed black hair and tattoo, it’s just meant to evoke the quality of a Plutonian. I’m an old lady of 67, my hair is silver, and the only ink on my body is inkstains on my hands from writing so much. Regards, Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 18, 2010
at 2:31 am
LOL…i saw that picture twice, so i thought is young donna. LOL
By: nemessis on January 18, 2010
at 2:55 am
Oh boy, I scored 53. Well, I already knew I was a Plutonian (life kind of taught me that since I was born) but not that much !
Anyway, thanks for you articles and books Donna, they’re just great.
By: Karen on January 17, 2010
at 3:15 am
Very interesting…I’ve always known I was very Plutonian (40). Have any other of you Plutonian types scored the important people in your life? I just scored 5 of my closest friends/work-mates…and the lowest score was an 18. I guess we need others who can deal with the depths!
By: Nonia on January 17, 2010
at 7:27 am
“shake and bake”- that’s pretty good. I’ll have to remember that!
27 pointer here, but was wondering if my Scorpio Moon ruling the eighth house counted, too?
By: Anne on January 17, 2010
at 8:33 am
That’s stretching it. How come all you folks are so eager to amp up your Pluto scores. Have you no fear? (Smiley face)
What is this, Pluto Pride Week? When we have that convention, we’ll have to send a petition to Obama about it, maybe get a postage stamp series…I can see Lon Chaney, Wolfman, Frankenstein’s monster.
Donna, Plutonian and Proud
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 8:42 am
oh,i am sorry, i know where they are in my chart, i dont know at what interpretation to look for that aspect, this is what i ment. i can add a semi-quintile too, with 2 points? i have that between pluto and uranus
By: nemessis on January 17, 2010
at 9:51 am
56 for me ~ thanx for the validation
love all-ways,
mem
By: MaryEllen on January 17, 2010
at 10:12 am
Score of 50 if Chiron gets the full 5 points, 47 at the 2 point value. Born in 1966 so I’ve got that Pluto-Uranus conjunction which is conjunct my ascendant in the 1st and in opposition to the Saturn, Mercury, Chiron conjunction in the 7th. Neptune in Scorpio, Sun conjunct Mars in Aries in the 8th.
Though I don’t have a birth time but found out this year that my mother has Sun conjunct Pluto in Leo. I have a Leo moon in the 12th and her conjunction especially her Pluto is conjunct my moon. I’m slowly beginning to understand somethings that went on in my childhood.
Thanks Donna so much for your “Healing Pluto Problems” book and this blog. I was thrilled to find out that you had started one.
By: msfullroller on January 17, 2010
at 12:57 pm
“Are you both part of the group born in the 1970s with multiple planets conjunct Neptune or Uranus in Scorpio?”
Donna, I was born in 1978. Pluto conjunct my MC, trine my DC, sextile my ASC. Three planets in Scorpio, including my Sun and Venus. One planet in the 8th house. Weak trine (9 degrees) between Pluto and my Moon. So there you go.
By: katie on January 17, 2010
at 4:51 pm
Thanks, Katie. I don’t think I’ve met many people in your generation. It sounds like an intense bunch. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 5:25 pm
Donna,
My first ever chart prepared back in the 80s by a woman in Texas used the KOCH house system, and I always thought of myself with this 9th house stellium =travel, obsession with foreign cultures, strong religious issues in my life, etc. BUT in the PLACIDUS house system, I’m an 8th house stellium with Sun, Pluto, Jupiter and Uranus. SO…when tallying my points, it will change depending upon which house system I use, right? What are your opinions on this? I was told that since I was born close to the Canadian border that that was why the astrologer may have chosen the KOCH house system, something about that one is used for northern latitudes??? But I never could get a definitive answer on it…..
By: Trishia Jacobs on January 17, 2010
at 7:14 pm
Hi, Trishia, I’m a Placidus person all the way, but that’s a debate that has gone on for the entire 40 years I’ve been in astrology. In reality, what I do is that if a planet is within 5 degrees of the house cusp, I test it out to see which house it really seems to work with in the person’s life. Generally, what it feels like is that it has somewhat of an effect on both houses and often seems to pull them together in an odd way. So, ask yourself, does that stellium work in the 9th more than the 8th, or do some of them work in one house and others the other–or is it a blend. The test isn’t meant to cover all eventualities. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 17, 2010
at 9:29 pm
Wow Donna, this is so helpful to share a space with so many other Plutonian friends. Im am in the painful process of finishing up a relationship with a man I adore but who simply refuses point blank to have any kind of commitment, he has 51 points (Pluto conj Jupiter in leo conjunct his MC) Scorpio Asc and 8th hse sun. I have never been so fascinated by anyone in my life as I am with him. We have been together for only two and a half years and yet have been trying to part for most of that time due to the same recurring commitment issue. We have also Venus sextile Pluto in our synastry and I think I remember you once saying something like (i paraphrase so forgive me if Im wrong) Venus/Pluto relationships dont do it …or just walk away. Honestly its so hard to do. We go weeks without seeing each other but the energy doesnt diminish one iota!
Thank you to everyone who has shared here its helping me a lot to see that Im not alone and isolated in my emotional struggles to deal with being a Pluto ruled person, there is a whole community of us intensity freaks. on friday the eclipse hit my 3rd house Saturn in Cap and I think communicating here on this forum is a part of this. Donna I already have your ebooks but will make another donation to Haiti on your behalf! Many thanks.
By: Niyati on January 18, 2010
at 1:45 am
thanks, Niyati, people do seem to be sharing here open-heartedly and–unusual for Plutonians–with a good deal of comfortability. Isolation and hiding oneself is such a typical Plutonian quality. And thank you for donating to Haitian relief efforts. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 18, 2010
at 2:29 am
Donna I am going to use the flower essences again. I bought them ages ago when I first bought your book ‘healing Pluto Problems’ in 2005 but in my typical Plutonian cynicism (well also Saturn in Cap) I didnt use them! so they are out of date in 2010 & I’m definitely going to try and use them regularly especially reading this blog of fellow plutonians.
And thanks Karen for the advice. My relationship troubles are mostly about me as I have Venus sextile Uranus in a Yod so I kindof (LOL!) have a recurring problem with attracting unavailable exciting men.
And even with my friend well, I often wonder if I’d really be available if he was!
Part of the fascination is that he isnt, & it isnt personal, we are just in different stages of life, my kids are young and his are almost all left home. Being attached to someone who isn’t available does mean I dont have to take a real risk and actually trust someone!!! Im a 37 in the plutonian scale…. trust and commitment dont come easy to me.
By: Niyati on January 18, 2010
at 7:49 am
HI, Lesley, If the flower essences you bought were preserved in brandy, they might still be okay, just like a bottle of wine that ages well. If you’re serious about using them, you’d find all kinds of information online at Vibration Magazine and blog, which I’ve coedited for 11 years. Find the link under “useful sites” in the blogroll. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 18, 2010
at 11:33 am
I’m so sorry to hear that you’re suffering Niyati, yet I’d like to comment on “We have also Venus sextile Pluto in our synastry and I think I remember you once saying something like (i paraphrase so forgive me if Im wrong) Venus/Pluto relationships dont do it …or just walk away”.
My husband and I have a Venus square Pluto in our synastry and we’ve been together for more than seven years now. It’s the most intense and trusting relationship I have ever had with anybody, including my parents and friends.
He’s a Plutonian too (he scored 40) but on the very healing side. He’s helped me so much that if I could get back in time I wouldn’t be able to recognize myself.
Yet, commitment has always been and is still frightening to him (I guess his Uranus conjunct DC doesn’t help…).
So please, if you encounter another Plutonian don’t be afraid, let love in. He might be the right man for you.
(Am I really writing all this stuff on a blog ? Oh God, what happened to me ?)
By: Karen on January 18, 2010
at 4:57 am
Sh..t… only 72…! I honour you, Inaness… and all of my fellow Plutonians, for that matter…
I guess this Pluto-Uranus conjunction makes me a Uranian as much as a Plutonian, and to me that’s the very interesting part of this generational aspect. Rebellious to the bone… and so extremely inquisitive, with this Virgo position of those two, wanting – and, as it seems to me, being capable – to KNOW it ALL, especially when it’s hidden. Whether it’s about dark world politics and secret government-stuff or my neighbour’s deepest soul secrets – I’m into it… And I’m so glad to have learned to LOVE it, both my own attitude AND my neighbour, whatever his secrets are…
I would be so very interested in all of the stories of my fellow Plutonians, so please let’s get this convention thing started…! Can’t wait to hear what all of these people, with their life’s intensity, would be finally up to, in those times of revelations and big, big, BIG change. What are we going to make out of this beautiful world of ours, folks…? (Aquarial-10th-house-with-a-Pisces-Saturn-in-it Capricorn…)
Donna… Thanks!
Would love to buy your e-books, all of them at once this week with regard to your Haiti-campaign, but so sorry to say I really can’t. I hope many many other people will…!
By: Ronald on January 18, 2010
at 2:23 am
Hello, Ronald, I hope you get this, since there’s no email on your comment. Are you saying that your Pluto score was 71? If so, get in touch with me, because I am running a contest to see who has the highest Uranus score and giving prizes for that. So then I realized it wasn’t fair to the Plutonians not to offer a prize for the high scorers as well, so if your score is that high, you are a winner. (The prize is one of my ebooks of your choice.)
I believe that Inaness–the other high scorer–wants to compare notes with you as well, so write to her at the email she left there. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on February 6, 2010
at 2:26 pm
Sorry Donna, I didn’t see your post until now – sorry for the delay… I guess all the Plutonians thought I didn’t answer because I cheated on the score…
Inaness, hope you get this post too? This is how my score came to be (I didn’t check on Uranus, but I guess my Pluto-Uranus conjunction, with little more than one degree separating them, brings about the same score):
Pluto trine Sun (10), square Moon (10), square Asc (10) – enough to be obscurely gifted, but there’s more – square Jupiter (5), opposite Saturn (5), opposite Chiron (5), trine Mercury (5), conjunct Uranus (5), quincunx Mars (2), quincunx MC (2) (hope that counts?), sextile Neptune (2), Neptune in Scorpio (3), Sun in 8th house (5), Mercury in 8th house (3) – makes 72, or 70 when the MC-quincunx doesn´t count. (By the way: my 8th-house Sun sextile my Scorpio Neptune is yodded by my Jupiter-Ascendant conjunction, which is squared by… Pluto…! are there any points for that?
)
So… I’d like to add that I really had one hell of a time, when first transiting Pluto visited my Descendant, and shortly after that transiting Saturn and Uranus started to fool around with my Pluto/Uranus – Saturn/Chiron opposition… My life felt like being Mount St Helen in her finest hour – and it still does in o so many ways.
I cannot say I´m really looking forward to the times where both transiting Uranus and Saturn are exactly squaring my Ascendant – still I am, because during the days that both of those aspects will, for the first of three times, be exact… my new girlfriend and I will have our baby…
Can´t help mentioning it.
I guess, dear Donna, that I´m going to have to take a close look on all that you wrote about the famous T-square. Until now I was often just taking a quick glance at it, very well aware that it´s simply out of fear, of not-really-wanting-to-know, that I don´t really read those posts. Astrology has hardly been able to prepare me for what happened in my life during the last two-and-a-half years (though I must say: I was just beginning to study it at the time, and surely didn´t know about you until one year ago you opened up my eyes with your Pluto-book…!) – I often wonder if I should really keep on trying to use it as a tool. Which DOESN´T mean that I wouldn´t be delighted to win such a beautiful prize – by doing absolutely nothing but just being born in a certain time and space! (Imagine the angels saying to all those souls preparing the leap: `Pick your time, choose a spot – only when you´re down there you will be told what the prize is…!´)
Love you
Ronald
By: Ronald on February 8, 2010
at 4:33 pm
Glad to hear from you, Ronald. It looks like you have the top score, since Inaness’ wound up to only be 70. The quincunx from Pluto to the Midheaven would count as 2 points, making the score 72. You’ve won one of my ebooks of your choice, so go to my publications site, http://www.moonmavenpublications.com/astrologybook.html and choose one.
Then write to me at moonmave@spiritone.com with your choice and your birth information, as I will verify your figures and also publish your data (not your name or email) in a post next Sunday. It’s meant as a tutorial so people can see how to know when a planet is strong in a chart. I salute you and Inaness–such a strong Pluto, you must have an amazing destiny to make some important contribution to our world. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on February 8, 2010
at 6:24 pm
Donna, where can I find this data?
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 12:17 pm
Sorry, Kelley, what data are you asking about? Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on June 1, 2010
at 4:40 pm
82 comments! Oh lord, the scorpios are all coming out from the rocks in which they were hidding!
You should be proud, Donna
You know what I did just for fun?
I apllied this math formula to a composite chart between me and a famous actor – got an 53 score, lolololol!
By: Dunya on January 18, 2010
at 6:15 am
Ooof, I just tallied up my partner’s pluto score. 58 to my 48!! Like attracts like?
By: katie on January 18, 2010
at 8:43 am
Well since everyone else has owned up, I have to confess 45. Mostly ‘positive’ aspects though at the ripe old age of 55 I’ve seen and done most of the horrors as well. Today my body literally froze up and refused to allow me to have treatment from a dentist I don’t trust. You just have to know what you know! Love the blog Donna – its an inspiration.
By: Morvah on January 18, 2010
at 8:45 am
Morvah, Trust is such an important issue for Plutonians for so many of us have had our trust betrayed as children or traumatically in adulthood, so that’s never a good idea to ignore your body’s signals. Good that you listened. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 18, 2010
at 11:34 am
Absolutely! I really learned a lot about this when I went through 7 surgeries and bungles of medical establishment. I always “knew” and over this two year period got a strong lesson in trusting my own intuition over the doctors’ so called expertise. We are the only expert when it comes to our own bodies and health and I learned to collect data, opinions, study, research and then make decisions based on my own intuitive knowledge and intellectual conclusions given all the data. We just walked into the medical circumstances at the time very naively, as we were raised in this society, to think the doctors know everything and should be trusted to know everything – so both me and my husband deferred to their expertise over our own intuition until we learned this lesson.
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 12:15 pm
Well, got a score of 53, pluto is at the very end of my 7th house so that score almost was 56. Have a stellium in libra (saturn, jupiter, mercury, pluto, sun) with the sun in the 8th…all square moon in cancer and sextile my midheaven. Pluto makes aspect to most of my planets- it’s semisquare venus in sag, sextile leo mars, so close to a semisextile with uranus in scorpio. It forms a tight square with my cancer n node as well. If we’re going to go there it’s also inconjunct my taurus chiron and sesquiquadrate my asc in pisces. My sun makes almost all of these same aspects, reinforcing these.
Interesting what you say about career choices since these do not describe what I’ve done with my life at all- I’m an ex-environmental scientist and now do music for a living. I do have an interest/secret desire to be involved in natural health somehow, also to be an astrologer. I’ve always been interested in researching esoteric subjects. Grew up without any friends as an outcast, people tell me I can come off as very serious/intense even though I’m actually very laid-back- this plutonian madness seems to obscure my asc and sun (everyone always assumes I’m a scorpio). No relationships, I think it scares guys away. They don’t even want to go on a date, the few men who have showed a modicum of interest wanted to “hit it and quit it” as James Brown would say- want sex/physical only and I guess they thought they could get it from me. Hopefully once my saturn return comes along in my 7th house this year I’ll be able to work on this and have some better opportunities.
By: Dizzy on January 18, 2010
at 10:14 am
Hi Donna, I have a question that maybe you can answer…
In your opinion, is a Sun/Pluto conjunct person more ‘Plutonian’ than someone else who may have a higher score but minus the conjunction(s)?…
I have my own opinion, but I’m just curious what yours is…
By: Julie on January 18, 2010
at 4:48 pm
If the scores were close, you mean? Probably the Sun would weigh heavier, as the Sun is the core of you. But if the other person were say 15 points or so higher, then no, the Sun wouldn’t be. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 18, 2010
at 5:01 pm
Donna, this is fascinating – thank you. I scored 42 which only confirmed what I suspected since Pluto is conjunc my sun and they square my moon which is in the 8th house.
What I discovered by looking at two charts of people the closest to me is that both of them have north nodes in the 8th house. Are there points to be added for north nodes in the 8th – sorry if I missed this answer in earlier comments.
By: Kara on January 19, 2010
at 8:23 am
HI, I thought I answered that once, but can’t find it, so here goes. This would be a minor influence, probably only 2 points. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 19, 2010
at 10:39 am
Having been blessed with natal Pluto in the 12th conjunct my Ascendant, sextile and in mutual reception with my Mercury, and square my Mars and Midhaven, it’s taken me many years to realize and embrace just how this Plutonian energy has affected me and to be grateful for it. My total score was 40, which doesn’t even include my South Node in the 8th, which occasionally calls to me like an old friend, offering comfort when times are tough.
I’m very aware of the negative potentials of misdirected Pluto energy and am happy to say that I’ve worked hard to become a person that manifests the higher qualities of that energy, at least externally!!! There are still times when I hang onto negative thoughts longer than I should (I also have Mercury, Jupiter & Neptune all conjunct in Scorpio), but that doesn’t stop me from consciously making an effort to rise above and be transformed.
I love the insights that Pluto brings — I know what I know whether or not it’s popular or “pretty”. For me, knowing what I know isn’t enough; I want to apply that knowledge in practical ways.
I’m really enjoying your blog. Now that I’ve found it, I’ll look forward to checking back often!
Thanks for sharing what you know.
By: LB on January 20, 2010
at 12:07 pm
As you may have noted by reading the many comments on this article, we Plutonians are much alike, a tribe of likeminded people who don’t flinch from the work that healing our Plutonian side can bring. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 20, 2010
at 1:54 pm
Interesting, I have Ketu (Dragon’s Tail) and Uranus in Scorpio which is my 10th house.
I am into research, and have been a part-time assistant insurance agent for my parents in their profession.
By: Byrappa on January 24, 2010
at 11:42 am
Uranus is very interesting in Scorpio…has some of the Plutonian fascination with digging deep into the unknown as well as the capacity to absorb technology. In certain ways it has some similarities to the generation born with Uranus and Pluto conjunct in the 1970s, though not quite so intensely. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 24, 2010
at 12:36 pm
Hi Donna!
This is a great blog! I scored a 45, so I’m Plutonian, all right. It’s funny. People are always talking about how bad it is to be alone, and I’ve had to make a concious effort to socialize all my life. I realised early that if I didn’t, I would be this really weird lady who never spoke to anybody.
I looked at my chart for this test, and realised Pluto is everywhere. I have stellium, (9th), with Uranus, Sun, Pluto, Moon all within 10 degrees Virgo. Jupiter is in opposition (focal in a dragon). Saturn is quinconx the Stellium (focal in a yod) and an eight house Mars. And of course Neptun in Scorpio (12t house) and to top it all of: a Scorpio asc. (It shows up in relatives and friends too – mirroreffect, I guess).
I’ve found that the more I understand the power of Pluto and put my trust in it, there’s unlimited resources. And the way to tap into it, for me at least, was to find out what I wanted to do. So I’ve very stubbornly stuck to that. I get resentful and depressive if I don’t do that, so that’s a great way to know I’ve done the right thing. (I write horrorstories and crimenovels – that should speak for itself).
I am wondering about the quincunx aspect – some say it’s insignificant, others that it’s a big deal.
Thanks again for this forum – I love that!
By: Natalie on January 26, 2010
at 9:55 am
Interesting, I scored a 49 (if counting North Node in Scorpio as a point) and never really felt Plutonian or Scorpion by nature. Maybe still growing into my NN in Scorpio, although the more I own my Pluto and personal power and not give it away to others, the more I’m learning to embrace Pluto’s strength in my life…It’s true I do turn it inwards and try to self-heal and maybe I can see where I can help others as well! I have Pluto conj MC, Moon, Mars, Mercury, and Venus by wide stellium, with tight sextile to both Neptune and Saturn…Thanks for the mathematical breakdown, it helps me to see how much Pluto is a factor in my chart!
By: teany on January 31, 2010
at 7:16 pm
Amazing score, Teany. But then, there were a ton of folks with exceptionally high scores who commented. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on February 1, 2010
at 6:39 am
Lol, you’re right – I’m about average “Plutonian, if there is such a thing!
Thank you again for your amazing blog and work!
By: teany on June 5, 2010
at 12:58 pm
My Pluto score: 32 as near as I can figure. I have a Scorp moon in the 10th square Pluto in the 8th. I vascillate between isolation, I call it rather hermit-ish at times, and obsessively attached *ha, ha* (Cancer sun).
I’m married to a Scorpio sun, venus, ascendant… but he doesn’t fit the profile even a tiny bit. Maybe it’s his Cancer moon? At any rate, Donna… this is all fascinating. I took the Uranian quiz, and barely moved the ‘thermometer’… like almost non-existent!
Great fun with this Donna!!!
By: Leslie on February 6, 2010
at 2:26 pm
Hi Donna:
I have loved your blog since I first came across it and want to thank you for all your hard work and for sharing your wisdom and knowledge with us. I especially appreciate your work around things Plutonian, as you have helped me understand and incorporate energies I used to be so afraid and even ashamed of.
I scored a 38, and given my life experiences, I was surpirsed it was so low! Thanks also to all the commenters, sooooo helpful to know one is not alone (tho one lives like a hermit!) and that there are others out there struggling to deal with all the intensity of a Pluto-ruled or Pluto-heavy chart.
Many times I have tried to mask it to make others feel comfortable around me, but it never, ever works. The only thing that’s helped is to serve up the intense feelings with a little humor. ‘A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down,’ kind of thing. Or to move into the healing/healer ‘feel’ of Pluto energy, that’s where I feel very much at home and confident.
And I for one would love to have a convention of Plutonian types, I’d be there with bells on!
By: Sabut on February 7, 2010
at 7:25 am
that’s so true, Sabut. I think many people are uncomfortable around us, because we see right into the heart of what’s really going on when everyone else is in denial. And when we try to tell them straight out, they resist it and feel uneasy. But when we cloak it in humor (not mean spirited), they have to laugh. That’s what I observe in a lot of standup comedians, especially the African American ones like Chris Rock or Whoopi Goldberg. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on February 7, 2010
at 11:02 am
I have definitely experienced others’ discomfort with my intensity and ability to cut thru the bs to the heart of matters, to see hidden agendas easily, and many things others are unconscious of…My husband and I have to laugh because of this natural psychologist tendency (to the point of psychic at times) and strong intuitive bent. It is a double edged sword because it is often painful and tiring to be attuned to this degree. At what point does this go over into paranoia Donna? I used to be such an optimist, but with accumulative PTSD, I am so much more pessimistic and fearful than I used to be. And with Mars in the first, I have to be careful what I say, not to put my foot in it….
Like you have mentioned Donna, although I have the credentials (LCSW) to work with people, I find these days that I prefer not to do so individually for now. But I’m thinking of combining that training with my passion for astrology and becoming an astrologer in the next year or two.
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 12:04 pm
P.S. Meant to say also that the humor works very well for me. Oh, I love to laugh and people can hear things so much easier when it’s couched in humorous terms (and not mean spirited)
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 12:06 pm
Hmmm, I just did the Uranus test, so popped over to do this one also. I am 48 Pluto and 45 Uranus…that explains a lot – heheheh.
Pluto in Leo on Ascendent 10
Pluto opposite Moon 10
Pluto square Saturn (ouch) 10
Pluto conjunct Jupiter 10
Pluto sextile Venus 2
Saturn in Scorpio in 4th 3
Mars in Pisces in 8th house 3
There ya go…48
By: Kathy Dannel Vitcak on February 7, 2010
at 11:03 am
I scored a 57 on the Uranus test (not counting Uranus opposition Chiron since no point value assigned)
On the Pluto test I scored a 58 (not counting my 7th house Sun that very close to the cusp on the 8th – so much so it’s in tight conjunction to Saturn which is in the 8th – Sun @ 11 Deg Pis – Saturn 18-deg) and also not counting Chiron, which is in the 8th.
Do I get extra credit on both tests for Uranus transiting through my planet-heavy 8th house over the past couple of years? (and it’s still there lingering over Mars….arrrrgh! )
Thanks for these tests and for this blog in general Donna…it’s been very helpful to me in expanding my novice understanding of astrology.
By: Jill Sealee on February 7, 2010
at 12:19 pm
Those are two impressive scores, Jill. Not to give away the devious plot I’ve hatched, but you might want to hold onto your calculations until the Blogathon weekend on March 19-21. Even though you’re out of the running with your scores on this one, there could conceivably be a contest where the total scores for all three outer planets in the t-square counted for something. I’m just saying! Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on February 7, 2010
at 12:43 pm
Jill, Uranus is now transiting my husband’s eighth house, which is planet-free, as is his second, which Saturn would be transiting now (until it goes back to Virgo) What has been your experience while experiencing this Uranian transit with all those planets getting hit?
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 11:52 am
I’m a 60.
By: Togi on February 8, 2010
at 4:24 pm
Impressive, Togi. Not the prize winner, but still a remarkable score. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on February 8, 2010
at 6:05 pm
What a strange path I seem to be walking at the moment, and it appears to lead to Pluto. Who would have guessed, but I have a score of 42 and that’s without including the northnode conjunct asc in Scorpio, or looking for the semisq etc aspects. I don’t think I express the dark-side too much, but I don’t ‘express’ much in general!
What do you think about it appearing in families? I suspect what I will find – it’s a shame lack of birth time will limit the detail.
By: Lizer on February 11, 2010
at 2:46 pm
Hi, Lizer. Plutonians definitely begat Plutonians. My mother had Pluto right on the MH; I have it on the Ascendant; my sister has it conjunct her Sun and Saturn, plus Moon in Scorpio. It definitely runs in families. I also know a family with 3 generations of Mars-Pluto conjunctions. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on February 11, 2010
at 5:17 pm
What are the people in that Mars Pluto conjunctions family like? Any visible major theme?
I dated a man with Mars Pluto conjunct in 8th and Saturn in 4th. He was a Taurus, Moon in Aquarius, Cap rising. For him, I’m pretty sure, our relationship was superficial, convenient, and vaguely amusing. For me, it was a life changer.
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 11:48 am
23 points, and it’s just the right dose!
By: Segurelha on February 13, 2010
at 3:52 pm
48….your words re “failing to spite” Pluto conjunct midheaven, really it home, although it seems so unconscious…maybe the pluto sextile to a 4, 8, 12 air grand trine, the 12th focus being mars/neptune conjunction, saturn conjunct scorpio ascendant makes it seem like I am hurting myself to pay a debt of guilt Great thread, looking forward to future reads
By: mark on February 15, 2010
at 10:10 pm
HI, Mark, I paid that debt myself, long ago, but now my credit score is squeaky clean. It sounds like there are a couple of other articles on this site that you’d find helpful. One is a powerful guest blog by Kachina called Letting Go of Survivor Guilt–Learning the Limits of your Responsibility for Others and the other is • Pay-as-You-Go Karma–One Path to Peaceful Relationships. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on February 16, 2010
at 5:35 am
only 56
By: cris on February 16, 2010
at 7:11 am
Great thread, looking forward to the March 19-21 event….I scored 48, perhaps up to 52….thank you for your words of “failure by spite”….it was so unconscious, which seems to be an issue for Plutionians, perhaps more for myself with a strong air grand trine in houses 4,8,12 all relating/integrating to a Pluto conjunct MC with opposing moon on the fixed cross, very close aspects, Saturn conjunct ASC in Scorpio rising heightens the karmic, unconscious sense….really frustrating for one who needs to know/intellectualize feelings deeply buried….learning to let go….thank you all for your posts and Donna for your assistance.
By: mark on February 18, 2010
at 7:32 am
Only 25 but Pluto is DIRECTLY conjunct my Sun in the same degree and less than a minute of arc and bound up with the Part of Fortune all in that same degree.
By: M810 on February 27, 2010
at 7:17 pm
Scored a 56 for Pluto. With Pluto “smack-dab” on my ascendant (in Virgo) conjuncting Uranus (in Libra), those making aspects with Sun, MC , Mars, Neptune, and Chiron; AND Mars and Neptune in Scorpio (whew), with Saturn at the tail-end of my 7th (counted it in 8th – feels like a double-whammy sometimes). My life has definitely had death and sudden changes as a theme from childhood. Interestingly, scored 60 for Uranus and 27 for Saturn (Sun in Cap. square Saturn). I’m a body worker, interested in astrology since childhood, but very grounded in the sciences as an engineering major in college. I’m amazed at the way people tell me their deepest secrets when they hardly know me, but somehow sense that I’m a safe person to reveal to.
By: TheGreenMother on March 1, 2010
at 9:02 pm
Ah, that’s such an interesting point about people telling you their secrets with Pluto conjunct the Ascendant. I’d never thought of it, but I have exactly the same experience and have Pluto there as well. One of the reasons I was forever hiding in my room when I spoke at conferences was exactly that. Complete strangers would drag me off in a corner at cocktail parties or accost me in the hallways and dump the most horrifying tales. I learned not to talk to seatmates on planes, for they would wind up telling me every horror story in their family.
It’s an asset in the consultation room, but fairly wearing in everyday life. I’ve learned not to reveal to casual strangers what I do for a living. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 2, 2010
at 4:02 am
Hi Donna!
Thank you for the fabulous post! as always, so interesting, entertaining and educational.
Is writing the Neptune one in your plans?
By: Ana M on March 1, 2010
at 9:55 pm
Yes, “when the spirit moves me.” Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 2, 2010
at 4:08 am
I’m a Gemini, but I scored 68 points. Always thought of myself as so airy, but my Lord….Pluto is ALL OVER my chart and explains my emotional intensity. Didn’t even realize I was that intense!
By: Heidi on March 3, 2010
at 11:33 pm
I tell you, Heidi, you shoulda been here when that piece was published. We had a convention of Plutonians going on in the comment section, and you wouldn’t have felt different at all. BTW, there are plenty more articles about Pluto in these categories: Planets or Healing Tools. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 4, 2010
at 3:28 am
That’s the thing about the Signs, and why don’t use them anymore. I have 4 personal planets in Aquarius and Gemini AC. Yet I’m passionate, deeply into psychology, intense in relationships and yes…ugh…jealous. I thought there was something seriously wrong with me.
But with a Pluto score of 45. I feel like I have permission to be me now:))) Thanks Donna!
By: Marina on March 11, 2010
at 1:44 pm
Welcome, Marina. If you read the comments on that test, you know we have quite a little Pluto collective here. I’d say 45 was strongly Plutonian without going over the top. To me, the planet, especially in conjunction, are stronger than the signs. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 11, 2010
at 7:00 pm
Oh geez – I’ve got 64 for Pluto, 42 for Saturn with uranus labouring on 15!
By: Tony Vowles on March 4, 2010
at 9:47 am
Hmm. Strange distribution, to have Uranus so low, Tony. Don’t know if that’s a blessing or a drawback….or, most likely, exactly who you were meant to be. You’ve probably majored in Uranus in other lifetimes! Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 4, 2010
at 12:52 pm
lol – lets hope so Donna! following your rationale my Neptune would be around the Saturn score also – Uranus is out on his own (is conjunct my Sun though)
By: Tony Vowles on March 4, 2010
at 2:20 pm
Perhaps you’re right on the scores, Tony. It would depend on the presence of Capricorn vs. Pisces planets or Asc and MH. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 4, 2010
at 7:46 pm
Brilliant post for a Dark Goddess obsessed girl like myself. Always had a massive crush on Pluto. I thought it was because identify so strongly with Lilith, who I have conjunct Mars and trine Jupiter. I do write a Blog dedicated to her. I guess I fall under the career heading of “Sex therapist/Psychologist”
But very pleased to find my inner Pluto. My score in the end was 45.
Which seems like nothing after 73!! That’s actually quite scary.
By: Marina on March 11, 2010
at 1:32 pm
I thought I had posted here but I don’t see it. Only 24 for Pluto though I think I deserve extra points since he is in my 1st, though not conjunct my Asc
By: Nikki Neal on March 12, 2010
at 5:45 am
I’m surprised that Pluto got the highest of the 3 with 31 points. I don’t consider myself very Plutonian.
By: Michelle on March 13, 2010
at 7:42 am
I’m only a moderately high Plutonian, compared to some of the people above: if the opposition and square to Jupiter and Venus count (both a 9 degree orb) i’ve got a score of 35 (not counting Scorpio NN or POF), otherwise it’s 25.
It’s still higher than i thought: i don’t perceive myself as one. I’m more of a closet Plutonian.
But i also took the test to see how my mother would score and she has a score of 72 (75 if Chiron counts)!
That just blows me away.
By: Maaike on March 13, 2010
at 10:13 am
Nope, Maaike, you’re not a heavy-duty Plutonian. I wouldn’t count a 9 degree square or opposition. There are orbs listed on the post now–I added them in this morning. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 13, 2010
at 10:21 am
Thanks. In that case i have to revise my score all together. it’s shrunken down to 15.
By: Maaike on March 13, 2010
at 10:50 am
My boyfriend gets a 69 for Pluto: I used your orbs.
MC, Neptune and Moon in Scorpio
Sun, Venus and Uranus conjunct Pluto
Mercury, Sun, Venus, Pluto and Uranus in the 8th
Pluto opp Saturn
Pluto trine Asc
Pluto sextile Neptune and Moon
His info: September 18, 1966
New York, NY
3:33 pm
By: Michelle on March 14, 2010
at 7:36 pm
He’s one big time Plutonian! I’d imagine he has plenty of star quality too, with that Sun conjunction to Venus, Pluto, Uranus, and Mercury, all trining the Ascendant. See the articles about Venus-Uranus and Venus-Pluto aspects on this blog under relationship astrology. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 15, 2010
at 5:05 am
Thank you, Donna,
I have been watching you, lo, these many years,– since 1969 when I first began my studies.
Your Dell column remains my main motivation for buying the magazine…along with Bill Meridian and a very few other regular contributors,–(despite the increasingly alarming TYPOS and dumbed down celebrity “teasers”).
As a double Capricorn, (Sun in 12th conjunct Asc…moon in 12th conjunct Mercury in Sag)….I am sure you can understand why I am NOT trying to amp up my “score”…or win anything…and also why it has taken me, oh,…about 40 years to write you.
With a Cardinal Grand Cross involving a stellium of Saturn, Mars, and Neptune (9th)…all angular squares to Uranus(Decending) and the Sun on the ACS,…well, you get the picture?….
While scoring waaaayyy high for Saturn, Uranus, AND Pluto, I really have no desire to “win” anything….as I’m sure you can understand…
I guess I’m the REAL 12th house contestant….”You didn’t see me…I wasn’t there”…!!!
That’s my story…and I’m sticking to it….LOL……Berta
By: Berta on March 15, 2010
at 9:02 am
That’s okay, Berta, we know you’re here. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 15, 2010
at 9:36 am
Thanks for your pithy response, Donna.
At first glance my chart may look intimidating, though I assure you there is no criminal background involved–only a very brief experimentation with the common hippie drugs of the ’60′s. Yes, I wanted to be a nun, –even tho I have been married 5 times (Uranus in 7th and Venus conjunct the Scorpio MC square Pluto in 8th, etc.)—3 of those before my 25th year! … Remember when we believed that one must MARRY every man we had “slept” with?? WHEW…! I learned that men CAN be beaten off with a stick, especially when one turns 40, gains a little weight, and goes a little grey. (My husband and I have been together, most happily, for 20 years now).
My point is…for such a “challenging” chart my life has been slam-dunk easy…Born into a well-off family, voted “prettiest eyes” in my high school class AND “most outspoken”– they hated me!!–(SAG Mercury and Moon), started college at 16–see 9th house sextiles–, ..money has never been a problem (2nd house node) –even when we lost our home to foreclosure–mainly because my “wants” are almost nil…I don’t covet anything…and never even get into the shower without marveling at the luxury of it…”Hot water, on demand…”? We’re living like royalty only could for the last 5,000 years!!!….Anyway….
…as Pluto joins this configuration, from a lot of boomers I read and hear so much angst and trepidation…and it’s always about HOLDING ON…when it’s time to LET GO…so, if a Saturnian like myself, with Pluto moving over my 12th Sun, etc, can do it…so can they!
My Saturn is off the charts but my horoscope has some weird blessings for this agnostic pagan…I’m sure you can see them…
(12-27- 51…Toledo, Ohio, 8:18 am) …best, Berta
P.S….Of course I’m wishing there was a “private reply” option…
By: Berta on March 18, 2010
at 11:58 am
Donna,
As for the Plutonian scoring–based on my experience– why not include??… Nodes in the 2nd/8th…Chiron angular or conjunct moon, nodes, or inner planets, especially Moon/Saturn…and MOST Of ALL…a balsalmic/dark moon placement?
The most potent placements I’ve seen in Plutonian charts have almost always included a dark or very close aspect to the new moon, –withstanding, and/or dispositiing, another conjunction…with a sextile or trine to Pluto… as you well know, those conjunctions will tell the story.
Never forget the MOON…it’s phase, and/or aspect.
Lilith moon, and proud of it….(well,…sort of)…Berta
By: Berta on March 18, 2010
at 1:56 pm
As I’ve mentioned a number of times, this quickie test is a much-abreviated version of a longer and more detailed, mathematically demanding test that required an Excel spread sheet and probably a degree in accounting. My correspondence students tended to drop out when they reached that lesson. It is not intended to replace chart interpretation, only to alert people to the relative strength of various planet in the chart. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 19, 2010
at 4:06 am
So late, here, but I’m a 31 like Donna
!
I like my Pluto-Sun conjunction.
By: Deb on March 19, 2010
at 2:47 pm
Hey this is very cool! I new i had a lot, but this just confirms it. I came up with 81 (4 planets in Scorp in my 8th house) and Pluto makes aspect to basically everything except my ascendant. I’ll have to go over and do the other ones a little later. Shouldn’t there be something if your 8th house is Scorpio? Maybe there is and i missed it. Anyway, thanks again.
By: wg on March 23, 2010
at 9:48 am
You’re scoring the planets in the 8th and also planets in Scorpio, so it’s already double points for the combination. 81 is plenty! Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 23, 2010
at 9:57 am
Ha! Well I’ll be darned, born in 1967 with a Pluto (and Uranus) score of 40. If Chiron and others were involved, my score would be through the roof for both conjunct planets. Nice to meet my 1967-8 kin on this forum.
With Mercury and Neptune conjunct in Scorpio, the affects for me are somewhat amplified. One thing with all of these Plutonian and Scorpionic affects is intensity…and positive energy can be extended, consciously, just as easily and intensely as negative. So let’s join together in putting out a lot of positive energy, and see what beautiful healing and magic we can drum up, fellow Plutonians! I believe that closer to the other side = closer to the Light, and this is a gift.
As an aside, I bet there are a lot of Kundalini people among us.
By: White Raven on March 25, 2010
at 12:24 am
Welcome! Yes, there are many Plutonians and many from the mid-60s among the Skywriter regulars…and as a result, the comment sections of articles here are often quite valuable exchanges and very worthwhile reading.
The Raven is my totem, having adopted me when I moved to the Pacific Northwest after 25 years in NYC. I’m charme34d and bemused by the idea of a white one. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 25, 2010
at 3:25 am
Thanks for the welcome! As you know the Raven teaches many lessons about opposites, and not judging a book by its cover – there is light and many hidden gifts that come through the jet black raven. The white raven is a more overt symbol of this. I also feel the Raven reflects well my being a Libran/Air with Mercury in Scorpio.
I didn’t mention in my post that I have experienced the affects of Pluto entering Capricorn and all the transits affecting us Plutonians in the last 2 years…it’s been rather like a Mercury retrograde period, but marked more by everything being harder than it should be to the extreme…I have long googled this. It’s really interesting to read posts from Inaness and others noting this born around the same time. It’s worth mentioning that being born late 1967, my natal Pluto has company (in 9th) from Uranus and Ceres (conjunct) and Venus, Jupiter and Pallas. When you said there was a cat’s cradle of outer planets then, you weren’t kidding! As a footnote, with all these in 9th, I’ve been travelling the whole time so far LOL!
By: White Raven on March 26, 2010
at 4:53 am
Very interesting. And, yes, there certainly is an energy with Pluto in Cap squaring Saturn of cutting us no slack, push having finally come to shove. But I think our institutions and infrastructures have gotten that bad, that’s what’s going to be required. Have you visited the category on this blog called A Pluto-Saturn Preparedness Kit? Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 26, 2010
at 4:59 am
71
. I’m new to your site, but very interested in exploring it more; I always figured that I had Saturn issues going on, but Pluto seems to be the answer! Looking forward to chatting more as I look at this more closely.
When I first took this, I was sure I’d done it incorrectly because the score was so high. But Inaness’ score made me feel more at home
Love,
-Libby
By: Libby on March 27, 2010
at 12:51 am
71? OH, yeah, you’re right at home here. We collectively have more Pluto points than some smaller cities–certainly more than my home town, Onawa, Iowa, which is why I don’t live there! There are a great many articles for you to read about Pluto on this site. Try the onsite search engine. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 27, 2010
at 4:42 am
how do you do this it looks so complex.
By: Anne on April 6, 2010
at 12:16 am
Ann, have you had your chart done?
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 11:32 am
I’m coming late to this party, but find it fascinating. A Halloween ’62 baby – I score 27 Saturn, 42 Pluto, and 44 Uranus. Interesting that I’m a Scorpio, yet Uranus scored higher. Aquarius in the 6th house, Uranus natal 1st (yes that’s been fun). Transiting Saturn trine 0 degrees Natal Saturn in 6th. Pluto and Saturn transits hit several natal planets. I guess I should be in for quite a ride during this t-square. Just wanted to give you my scores, and thank you for the insights.
By: Rhonda on April 12, 2010
at 5:52 pm
Welcome, Rhonda, glad you enjoyed the tests. There are a couple of articles on this site abut the Pluto-Uranus conjunction that started about the time you were born, and I really should put up another one. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on April 13, 2010
at 6:36 am
I scored 44 so I’m sort of up there as well. Scorpio Moon and Neptune conj Desc both in 6th House, Sun in 8th with Sag cusp. I’m working the “heal yourself” route.
Hopefully I’ll get well quick enough to go back to school for a Master’s in Transpersonal Studies and then a counselling degree. I want to work with people leaving the [I mean really deeply withdrawn from society] occult world to come back to an integrated world.
I am THRILLED to have found your site! I’m about halfway through your Moon Signs: The Key to Your Inner Life and have found it very useful.
By: Parin Stormlaughter on April 21, 2010
at 7:47 pm
pretty cool test, i scored 53
moon in scorpio, ascendant in scorpio, pluto in scorpio
sun square pluto, moon conjunct pluto, pluto conjunct ascendant, pluto square midheaven, all aspects in tight orbs using the placidus system
feb. 7 1991, 12:19am, quezon city, im pretty much very plutonian and an egomaniac
By: emily on May 3, 2010
at 9:59 pm
HI, Emily, that IS quite a score. Welcome, I doubt that I’ve ever had a subscriber from the Phillipines. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on May 4, 2010
at 2:46 am
hi, this is an update to my score, i recounted the criteria and included minor aspects, which is not much but its a boost. im a 55, if i strictly conform to the criteria for the placidus house system, if i use the whole sign house system its 58 (plus mars in the 8th house). i love the whole sign house system cause there im a jupiter and midheaven in the 10th house in leo while in placidus im jupiter in the 9th in leo and midheaven in leo.
pluto square sun at 2.56 orb
pluto conjunct moon at 1.48 orb
pluto conjunct ascendant at 0.32 orb
pluto square midheaven at 0.37 orb
pluto quintile mercury at 1.10 orb
moon in scorpio
ascendant in scorpio
pluto in scorpio
however, im just wondering if i can use the asteroids cause i want to boost my score. haha.
im an eros and ceres in scorpio too,
chiron trine pluto at 2 degree orb
eros conjunct pluto at 3 degree orb
how much should i assign to these if its valid? dont i get extra brownie points for my pluto aspecting planets moon,pluto and ascendant all in scorpio? haha. just trying.
my favorite part is im a pluto conjunct moon conjunct eros conjunct ascendant, all in scorpio so it sort of makes me really charming/magnetic. haha, i know im an egomaniac and i like to yap and yap about how good i am and im really proud of being a plutonian, im attracted to a lot of things occult but my favorite is astrology and face reading, i even fit very well into the traditional scorpio rising look, deep set dark eyes, prominent cheekbones, thick, wiry black hair, thick angled eyebrows, tanned skin, short-medium height, full body but not im not fat (breasts/butt) and of course that magnetic aura. sometimes when im in my high and mighty mood, when i walk into a room, i feel like my aura fills up the place and people part like the red sea.
my birth details are feb. 7 1991, 12:19am, quezon city, philippines. im a sun/mercury in aquarius, moon/ascendant/pluto in scorpio, saturn/neptune/uranus in capricorn, venus in pisces, mars in gemini, jupiter/midheaven in leo.
By: emily on May 4, 2010
at 12:26 am
Emily,
Wow! You are one hunkin’ powerhouse of a woman! I’m many years older so will share that I wish I had known the power of my Leo Pluto/Leo Moon in Leo 8th house conjunction when I was much, much younger. There is definitely a magnetic aura, a feminine sex goddess power that conjunction brought me! When in my early thirties, an astrologer advised me, based on that Pluto/Moon conjunction, that I was sort of a, ahem, (as she put it) “femme fatale”. Well, I’ve certainly never lacked for male attention, that’s for sure!
Now, I don’t have the Pluto conjunct ascendent power your chart gives you either, so I can only imagine the powerful aura you must project!
It’s good that you’re aware of your charisma and power which gives you the ability to consciously use that power for good and to manifest pretty much anything for your own and others’ higher good!
I would think you’d need to watch out for lower Plutonian types or unsavory individuals attracted to your power, but I’m just guessing. And I would encourage you to use that magnetism to attract an equally powerful mate who will enhance your life and well-being for the positive.
Also, curious: How are your relationships with women?
What house is your Saturn/Neptune/Uranus conjunction in?
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 11:29 am
wow Kelly, you do reply a lot here. and youre quite plutonian yourself. well, im quite attractive inside and out, asian-hispanic looks but the real boon is my personality and the aura. on the inside, im very ambitious,domineering,egoistic, sort of dictatorial, probably the pluto square midheaven or/and sun square pluto. im too hard on myself. but i can deal with that. what drives me really bananas is the stupid moon conjunct pluto. i have terrible mood swings, like id feel fine, then feel really bad for no apparent reason. intense emotions make me feel go crazy on the inside especially i dont have much outlet for it, i keep it bottled up. thats probably why i do crazy things (sex and manipulation, pretty common place, but if you put in my context, its pretty twisted, i dont want to elaborate cause its kinda embarassing. sometimes when i get drunk, i cry or i get mad cause i feel bad about it, but normally i just repress my feelings. i know im pragmatic and il do what i have to do but sometimes i feel bad about being so pragmatic that i do stuff i dont like because i feel i have to, though i know i really dont have to. but to me, i have to cause i expect too much from myself. haha. oh well, i just have to suck it up) by the way, i dont like boys, im into girls. although i do know im very attractive to men. its too easy for me to get men, especially im not interested in them so i can be pretty objective. while with girls, they make me feel crazy. obviously, im very obsessive when it comes to love. besides the scorpio stuff, im a venus in pisces, and i got a loose venus trine pluto. so when it comes to girls, im whipped big time. my personality is sort of masculine (domineering thing), however, my body is very feminine (curves in all the right places), my face a combination of both, masculine eyes/feminine lips. hmm, as for the mate thing, i check their charts first, im torn between someone with a venus in cancer or scorpio. i know it will be awesome cause their venus will aspect my moon, pluto and ascendant instantly. by the way, can you post your aspects? i scanned the thread and i didnt think i saw it.
By: em on June 6, 2010
at 5:25 am
Love your writing. I’ve followed your columns for decades in magazines. I used your Uranian quiz some time ago myself. I was writing a tribute to Lena Horne on my blog and could see clearly she was so Plutonian. So I took the quiz for her, and she scored 39 pts. Thanks for all you do, Judy J.
By: Judy J. on May 12, 2010
at 7:00 pm
Ah, now that’s an interesting way to use the quiz–figure out more about these iconic figures. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on May 13, 2010
at 3:17 am
I feel like a kid in a candy store reading this blog!
For a piscis with libra moon and virgo rising I scored 37, just like my dad with 5 planets in scorpio, 4 of them in the 12th. He’d have had a laugh!
By: sabrina on May 14, 2010
at 8:52 pm
Sabrina, How do you think Uranus in Pisces transiting your 7th house opposing your first impacted your life over the past years of its Pisces transit? What do you think of Uranus hitting your eighth now, which will be opposed by Saturn transiting your second in Libra? Do you have any natal planets in the eighth or in your second?
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 11:05 am
Also, Sabrina, how have you experienced the Saturn transit of your first in Virgo the past couple years?
Hope I don’t sound nosy! Just very interested.
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 11:14 am
Hi Kelli, I just saw your post.
Actually uranus recently entered my 7th, and it’s being interesting (I’m thankful my husband and I have strong points in aquarius!) we need more space to ‘do our thing’ but we’ve grown together in other areas: i.e he’s more open to astrology now. I’ve being meeting creative and interesting people that bring lots of fresh air and growth. His work is more and more related to science and technology.
I’ve felt saturn most of the time! but especially this year.
Have you had similar transits?
By: sabrina on September 14, 2010
at 12:42 pm
Hmmmm…..last time I check this page, I got a 41. I have mercury/moon conjunct in taurus opposite pluto in scorpio…..
I’m also a Taurus with Saturn in Scorpio.
By: LaKeshia on May 19, 2010
at 2:22 pm
How’s that Saturn in Scorpio working for you LaKeshia? I’ve got that too…and in my tenth house conjunct Neptune in Libra….
It’s funny. I became interested in astrology at age 11, and have had my chart “done”, read, etc. off and on over many years – also have a lot of astrology books and do a lot of astrology reading, but it’s only in the past five years or so that I’ve begun to see or realize how loaded my chart is and how difficult. Oh, I’ve had a very interesting life, to say the least, with many challenges but only now seeming to comprehend the extent of effect of so many of the aspects, placements, and transits in my chart.
I have been almost obsessed, well – cross out “almost” – I’ve become increasingly obsessed with the Pluto aspects to my chart over the past twelve years, as well as with others, such as Saturn transiting my eighth thus conjuncting my natal Pluto/Moon conjunction. That aspect, thank the gods, is passed with Saturn in Virgo, moving into Libra. But Libra rules my tenth house, so it will next be hitting my Libra Neptune/Saturn Scorpio conjunction in the tenth opposed by Uranus transiting my 4th house ruled by Aries. I’m less concerned about that than I am about Pluto transiting my intercepted Capricorn 1st house, thus conjuncting my natal Mars in Capricorn Rx and opposing my natal Venus, Uranus, Mercury, and Jupiter in Cancer in my intercepted 7th house ruled by Cancer.
I’ve been real worried about Mars in Leo transiting my 8th house ruled by Leo and hitting that natal Leo Pluto/Leo Moon conjunction of mine also. Does anyone know for sure if Mars has moved on to transit Virgo now and will it still effect that eight house Pluto/Moon of mine for a while? Just seems very intense to have Mars hitting Pluto (and Moon) by transit and Pluto hitting Mars by transit and I was frankly terrified. Somehow I had the date May 10th to watch out for and, believe me, I did not leave the house that week. But I was fearful that it wouldn’t matter if I left the house or not, because either way, something could happen while I was in the house, or somewhere else, know what I mean?
I’ve heard lots of clients are worried about the current transits. Well, I sure am! How do others, especially Plutonians, handle this fear?
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 10:59 am
Hi, my name is Kelly and I’m a Plutonian…and the only reason I just admitted it is because all of you are as “f”ed up as me! lol So that helps a lot….
Pluto score is 56 but didn’t do any of the semi/quintile/sex-tile (hehe) aspects so I could be higher. NOT volunteering though!
Thanks for letting me know I’m not alone though hell if I really care!
By: Kelly on May 31, 2010
at 4:25 pm
P.S. Meant to be funny here, folks! If I couldn’t laugh, I’d cry…
By: Kelly on June 1, 2010
at 11:02 am
hi donna,i was born in 22nd july 1986 i have my chart at astrodienist so u will be able to see it i scored 43 in pluto test,and pluto is in my midheaven ,square to my sun,mercury and ascendant,i am having career problems,any advise for that?
By: sauhardkumar azad on June 1, 2010
at 10:40 am
There are many articles on Skywriter about the Pluto-Saturn square and other transits, as well as about careers and astrology. Have a look at the index in the new post about the download of articles on this site. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on June 1, 2010
at 4:28 pm
Hi Donna,
Thanks for this quickie quiz. I do have your book and it helps.
I scored someplace between 47 (no Chiron) and 52 (with Chiron opposition)
By: Diana on June 2, 2010
at 5:29 pm
I had no idea I would take a test today! Did not know about the other tests either until today.
Born in 52 I scored 50 on the Uranus test.
33 for Saturn.
24 for Pluto, and
20 for Neptune.
Uranus and Saturn are involved in a Grand Cardinal cross involving the Sun and all of the Cardinal points.
For the high score I would say Uranus is the dormant rocket booster when Saturn gets bogged down.
Interesting,
Thanks Donna!
By: John C. on June 5, 2010
at 4:33 pm
Glad you enjoyed, John. I’m familiar with your generation, lots of cardinal squares, but crosses, not so much. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on June 5, 2010
at 8:01 pm
35 I just wrote this is reponse to how Lilith conj Neptune opp Mars was doing me. I have Athene conj Pluto and Saturn in Scorpio conj Lilith. Scorpio MidH and Grand fire trine between Mars , Venus, Pluto and a few minor things.
aaahh. It’s ( The current Neptune/ Lilith conj) Squares my 28 Scorpio MidHeaven. Did I tell you the whole politic of Philadelphia wants me ‘gone” because I’ve been discovering all kinds of corruption. Corruption that goes all the way to the District Attorney himself. It started with the illegally digging up of illegally dumped chemicals near my house and went downhill from there. My witchy psychic detective self followed the trail into hell. They are so used to being corrupt and getting away with it – that I found out a lot more than just toxic chemicals. Their last ploy to shut me up was to try to get me committed- not kidding- political abuse of psychaitry. I didn’t fall for it. My therapist laughed and then said they must have pulled strings to get me into that system. I feel like I’m in the movie “The Changling.” Just wrote to another lawyer and been making contact with the Feds and want to turn it over to them. I just wanna get out of here and go back home to California. I’m sick from the toxic exposure and don’t eaxctly feel safe.
By: Margaret Motheral on June 5, 2010
at 9:11 pm
Oh my. The corporate world is such a slime pit any more, and these chemicals are going to really reach an unfixable level while Pluto is in Capricorn…well, the combination of Pluto in Cap is really about corporate corruption coming to a head and being outed. You are brave, and maybe not so safe. There’s a blog where you might find some kindred spirits who are struggling with the effects of toxins. Look for Vardo for Two and a woman named Mokihanna. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on June 6, 2010
at 2:31 am
*sigh* I read and follow directions. I read and follow directions. I read and follow directions. *repeating 47 more times*
Ok, using the correct orbs (blush), I score 31 here and not 44.
Redoing all the outer planet tests to see how badly I messed all them up too! XD
By: Parin Stormlaughter on June 6, 2010
at 3:20 am
Hi, Parin, oh, it’s complicated stuff and people seem to create their own rules (and, between you and me, I think some of the scores are a tad exaggerated). A score is just a number, and the important thing is, if it talks like a Plutonian, if it walks like a Plutonian, if it thinks like a Plutonian, and if it wants to be a Plutonian, then by gosh it IS a Plutonian. Donna
PS You shoulda seen the original test it was based on. Excel spread sheets for pity sake!
By: Donna Cunningham on June 6, 2010
at 7:39 am
Okay, I re-did it according to your allowed orbs. I believe I did it correctly, using the numbers that are in each box in my natal chart? At 9, I couldn’t use my Mars/Pluto conjunction, darn! lol. I know, Astro uses wide orbs. Anyway, If I did it correctly I have actually 74, not 81 as I originally posted.
And I promise I didn’t count anything twice!
By: wg. on June 12, 2010
at 5:32 pm
Oops I lied, I did count one twice, and an aspect to the NN which you haven’t mentioned so I’m guessing it doesn’t count. Redone my score is 70.
By: wg. on June 12, 2010
at 6:07 pm
Does Pluto conjunct Lilith count?? just wondering
By: Blue on June 18, 2010
at 8:53 pm
Nope. Nor do any of the other hundreds of miscellaneous bodies in the solar system. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on June 19, 2010
at 1:32 am
ok thank you
then my score is 54 using all the orbs you suggested..
By: Blue on June 19, 2010
at 12:26 pm
Thank you for connecting with us Donna! I’ve always had the feeling of wanting to be part of a collective movement to bring about important changes in society, it feels like my whole life has been leading up to this. By the way, I’m 45, an Aries and my score was 48 for Pluto, 36 for Uranus and 28 for Saturn. I’ve been living outside the U.S for over 20 years. My chosen life path has been so different from everyone else. All I can think sometimes is why did I have to make everything so hard on myself! I found an explanation for that today and a renewed sense of faith in myself.
By: Patti on June 20, 2010
at 7:14 am
Hi, Patti, welcome. For many Plutonian issues, I’ve found the flower essences (aka flower remedies) to be a great adjunct to our healing work. There are a number of articles in the category “Healing Tools,” but one that really pertains to what you’re saying is the Bach Flower Remedy, Rock Water, for people who are too hard on themselves in many ways. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on June 20, 2010
at 7:20 am
Just found out about the Pluto test so took it today and scored a 37. Yes, pretty strong indeed.
Thank you for yet another interesting experiment.
By: Mary Kanz on June 20, 2010
at 1:21 pm
I scored an 80.
By: Rawr on June 26, 2010
at 9:00 pm
Awesome! There are tons of articles on Pluto on this blog. Here’s a complete list:
http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/plutopaloozas-heres-plenty-of-pluto-posts/ Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on June 27, 2010
at 3:15 am
Yowzers, have you seen actor Bruce Lee’s chart? He scores 69 but that does not come close to giving points for the t-square of 4 personal planets in Scorpio opp Saturn-Jupiter, square Pluto in 8th.
It’s hard to imagine what his world must have felt like – what power! No wonder that was controversy and mystery over his death.
27 Nov 1940, 07:12 (15.12) San Fran
By: tizer on July 7, 2010
at 12:56 pm
vesta in scorpio and ceres in 8th house how much counts?and i have pluto trine MC but the orb si +6.13 does that count?without all this my score is 36.
By: fanne on July 16, 2010
at 3:00 am
The only one of the bajillion asteroids I count is Chiron. I’d count the Pluto trine to the midheaven. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on July 16, 2010
at 4:56 am
that give’s me a total of 46, pretty plutonian and with my sun and moon in pisces gives me intense feelings.
By: fanne on July 16, 2010
at 11:21 am
I scored a 68.
Pluto in 1st House of Scorpio (5), Scorpio Asc (5) Mars in Scorpio (3)
Conjunct Scorpio Mars(5)
Conjunct Scorpio Asc(10)
Square Leo MC(10)
Square Jupiter(5)
Trine Pisces Moon (10)
Opposed Taurus North Node (5) (not sure if this counts, if not I scored a 63)
Biquincunx Gemini Chiron (2)
Sextile Capricorn Neptune (2)
Semisquare Sagittarius Uranus (2)
Semisextile Sagittarius Saturn (2)
Semisextile Sagittarius Mercury (2)
I’ve had an interesting life so far. Lots of death and transformation. Many hard lessons learned at a young age, too. My parents threw me in therapy as a kid, most therapists thought I was a psychopath that would only grow up to be a serial killer. Do most Plutonian people have trouble expressing outwards emotion? I just thought that no one really understood my intensity and interest in death and the occult. Glad there are people out there like myself. I’m probably one of the most stoic Sagittarians out there.
Wish I knew more people with strong Plutos. Seems strange that most of my friends are Geminis, Librans and Aquarians, all air signs, that are all bubbly, talktative and eccentric.
Thanks for posting this Donna!
By: Sara on July 21, 2010
at 6:47 pm
Late to the party, but very plutonian:
Total = 59
Pluto conjunct moon = 10
Pluto square sun = 10
Pluto square merc, jup, trine saturn, sextile neptune = 20
Pluto biquintile AC = 2
MC in Scorpio = 5
Mars and Neptune in Scorpio = 6
Mars and Neptune in 8th house = 6
Loved your description of a plutonian; I’ve been all those things, but now I’m focused on healing myself in all ways and helping to heal others within my circle.
I have your book Healing Pluto Problems; should probably reread it!!
By: Karen on July 25, 2010
at 6:46 pm
LOL! You think? Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on July 26, 2010
at 3:59 am
In redoing the scoring to stay in ‘orb bounds,’ I realized that I miscounted the sextile (think this was the first test I took and didn’t realize it was considered a minor).
Anyway, new total is 56 … still pretty high:)
So my recalculated totals are as follows:
Sun = 58, Moon = 45, Mercury = 50, Mars = 35, Saturn = 48, Uranus = 33, Neptune = 19, Pluto = 56 and Chiron = 59. (So I’m not a PUNC, but a PC … LOL)
If I had to guess before doing these tests, I would have said Mars, Pluto and Saturn dominated my chart. In reality, Chiron, (who I was paying no attention to at all before finding your blog and these tests), ranks the highest, followed by the Sun, Pluto, Mercury and my feared Saturn coming in 5th.
Looks like we only have Venus and Jupiter to go; my Venus sadly will come in low and Jupiter will probably be low 40′s.
These tests have really been eye opening and educational Donna; I’ve learned so much from your (and others’) comments!! Thank you very much
By: Karen on September 9, 2010
at 6:47 pm
Hi Donna,
Quickly for now. Please add a Retweet / Facebook Like Plugin so I can quickly inform readers of your great work.
Cheers,
Jucy, the Plutonian…
By: Psychic Jucy on August 4, 2010
at 8:26 pm
Hi, Jucy, thanks for the thought, but I don’t belong to Facebook and don’t know how to do that. Pass the word along however you can, though. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on August 15, 2010
at 1:26 pm
Oh and I scored 66… <— Oops, quite the Plutonian number… *meeps*
I'm a psychic for a living, natural depth psychologist and plan to get a formal degree in psychology.
By: Psychic Jucy on August 4, 2010
at 9:23 pm
___0_ Pluto conjunct, square, trine, or opposite the Sun, Moon, Ascendant, or Midheaven, 10 points each.
__0__ Pluto conjunct, square, trine, or opposite other planets, 5 points each.
_12___ Pluto in minor aspect (sextile, quincunx, quintile, semisquare, or sesquiquadrate) to the Sun, Moon, or other planets, 2 points each.
__5__ Sun, Moon, Ascendant or Midheaven in Scorpio, 5 points each.
__0__BONUS POINTS: Pluto in Scorpio or the 8th, Scorpio on the cusp of the 8th, 5 points each
__9__ Other planets in Scorpio, 3 points each.
__0__ Sun or Moon in the 8th house, 5 points each.
__0__ Other 8th house planets, 3 points each.
T=26 More than 25? Very strong indeed!
My Pluto is a singleton in libra.
Would that have an influence on the points?
Plutonians can have a natural gift for psychology, the healing arts, and understanding what makes people tick.
(I’m working on it)…..
At the evolved level, the expressions can include transforming, healing, and empowering themselves and people and conditions they care about.
By: Robin on August 18, 2010
at 11:31 pm
“My Pluto is a singleton in libra.” No, I can’t see how it would. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on August 19, 2010
at 3:15 am
Ok. Thank you! =-D
By: Robin on August 19, 2010
at 3:17 am
No, I understand, I was just curious, that’s all. 80]
Thank you very much for taking the time to explain. 80]
By: joyrjw on January 1, 2011
at 10:39 pm
Do mutual receptions involving Pluto count?
Like a Mercury-Pluto mutual reception?
By: joyrjw on January 1, 2011
at 3:16 pm
There are tons of ways a planet can be strengthened. I’ve just hit the main ones to keep the test as simple as possible and to have some sort of standard way of reporting the scores. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 1, 2011
at 5:13 pm
Scored 69!
I knew that I am a Plutonian, but now that I read about it I understand many things about my behaviour that don’t fit the Gemini stereotype (Gemini Sun/Mercury). The more I read, the more I understand!
Thanks for that!!
P conjunct AC < 2 degrees
P square Sun < 1 deg.
P trine Moon < 1 deg.
P square MC < 3 deg.
P conj. Jupiter < 4 deg.
P conj. Uranus < 7
Venus in the 8th
Saturn in the 8th
Neptune in Scorpio.
By: Evi on August 24, 2010
at 3:51 am
Alright, this is all very confusing. I’m too weak in math (or lazy, as the case may be) to mess around with any minor aspects besides sextiles and quincunxes, but there are several scores that are so high, I’m not sure who I am anymore!
My mercury is a 48, saturn at 45, uranus at 39, and neptune at 39. Surprisingly, my moon was only a 19 and pluto just a weenie 13. So I’m a brainiac half-outer planet person? With the weak pluto and moon, you’d think I’d be a chattering superficial emotionless loon. What is going on here?
I don’t see a sun/jupiter/venus/chiron, which is probably good since I don’t need any more rival planet-’tudes. Yikes.
By: chartreuseviolet on August 26, 2010
at 10:56 am
Pluto
sesq Sun
sq Venus
opp Mars
semisquare Uranus
sextile Neptune
Pluto in Scorpio in 8th house
pluto involved in a t-square with venus and mars.
Total: 31
Not very high but people who know me do say I’m vindictive and manipulative. I thought it might be due to my third decan Pisces rising?
I’m attracted to men with lots of pluto influence though.
By: roxcerise on September 1, 2010
at 11:58 am
btw, my current interest has a score of 52 (he did give me his birthtime). kinda scary but intriguing to me
By: roxcerise on September 1, 2010
at 12:05 pm
Roxcerise ~ manipulative and vindictive sounds like lower octave of Pluto in Scorpio, and then add in the 8th house on top of it. And with it squaring / opposing your Venus and Mars (the two love planets), it’s not surprising you’re attracting Plutonian types.
My best wishes in getting to the ‘dove’ level of pluto (others call the eagle): At the evolved level, the expressions can include transforming, healing, and empowering themselves and people and conditions they care about. Plutonians can have a natural gift for psychology, the healing arts, and understanding what makes people tick.
This would be particularly true for you … the psychology, healing, understanding what makes people tick with it in your 8th house.
Pisces rising would show you as compassionate and empathetic to others and even merging easily with others. Much more gentle and dreamy than manipulative and vindictive.
By: Karen on September 9, 2010
at 7:26 pm
i got 52 ! OMG
By: jessica on September 7, 2010
at 2:10 am
sorry not 52 its 72 score
does ascendant trine to sun count
im a scorpio asc
By: jessica on September 7, 2010
at 2:29 am
No, the trine doesn’t count, but it’s quite an impressive score nonetheless. You’d go into the Plutonian Hall of Fame. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on September 7, 2010
at 5:29 am
nope 76 ! correct score
so much l0l
By: jessica on September 7, 2010
at 3:05 am
I thought I get more points, but I only have 15. I think I’m more Plutonian than that:
I have:
-Pluto trine sun – orb almost 9 degrees
-Moon in scorpio conjunct by 9 degrees pluto in scorpio
And that not counts, same with almost 8 degrees square to Saturn
By: bogger on September 7, 2010
at 10:40 am
56…dang!
By: Rachel on September 15, 2010
at 9:27 pm
I believe im a 50 to a 54. I have a Leo sun and scorpio rising toddler crawling on me so excuse my horrible math skills
Pluto conjunct sun, mercury and saturn
Pluto square ascendent
Pluto in Libra ( 29. 27′. 1″ might as well be in scorpio, sun too!)
Pluto sextile neptune
Pluto opposite Juno
Lilith in the 8th House.
i always said that if it wasnt for my Sun and Pluto at the butt end of Libra (about 12 hours away from Scorpio) then I would probably spontaniously combust. Instead i’m just passionately and intensely indecisive!. Lol.
By: Elizabeth on September 18, 2010
at 11:07 am
Oh and my hubby has
Sun, mercury, venus, uranus and mars in Scorpio ( 10th house : He works like the devil!) . Saturn, Moon and true node in the 8th ( virgo)
He does not have many Pluto aspects except Pluto square ascendent, like me. Shoot, he doesnt need many aspects with his chart. He is definately a pluto!
By: Elizabeth on September 18, 2010
at 11:14 am
I scored 59.
Pluto is currently conjunct my midheaven…oy! As I said in a helpful conversation with my coach today, there’s a bomb that needs to be detonated, which he, thankfully, helped me to do. Just so I don’t do it in front of my current boss and get catapulted to the next chapter. I’ve done that in past, less conscious encounters with Plutonian transformations.
How’s this for ‘Transformations-R-Us’? I’m legally changing my name…in November this name, Grace, will become my new name. Have changed first, middle, and last. Took me a year to agonize over it.
Oh, and did I mention it’s also my Chiron return? Nothing like having all kinds of muck to clear out. Fun, fun, fun…sigh…
Thanks for the quiz and the comments. Sometimes I feel like such a freak with all this Plutonian stuff. Just always transforming somehow, feeling all this internal change, peeking at my life around me and seeing things don’t match anymore. Sometimes it’s hard to keep up with it all!
Cheers,
Grace
By: Grace on September 21, 2010
at 10:01 pm
Ooo I got 42 on this one.
Will use that energy out on the Bike tomorrow. LOL
By: Peter on September 25, 2010
at 5:33 am
score of 61!
By: sharon on September 25, 2010
at 2:25 pm
Dear Donna,
I just wanted you to know
I bought your Book Healing PLuto Problems back in the 90′s I liked it very much.
I was in Portland Oregon back in 94 and bought your Book about Moon Signs there.
To this day, I admire your work tremendously.
Love
Peter (Wales UK)
xxx
By: Peter on September 26, 2010
at 12:21 pm
Thank you, Peter! Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on September 26, 2010
at 12:57 pm
Scored 50…yeah I could come off intense , threatening and obsessive . Been told I’m a Semi Truck trying to ACT like a Volkswagen. People sense my power and some are intimidated but others like it. Some seek me out…. others avoid. One Pluto author said Pluto in the 10th house means; in the most immediate past life one was the opposite sex. This is true for me. I remember WWII, what I did and how I died. Now I’m female but still had some duties to perform for culture that are usually the calling for male warriors. I have done them. Now I am a contented Grand Mother. Its been harder to be a Woman than a Man.
By: Barehand on September 28, 2010
at 1:26 pm
Re done and according to your specs we are at 52. But if I count the 4 major Asteroids/ 2 of which are in Scorpio . Ceres squares Pluto from the 2nd house which could help account for my starvation childhood experiences.This would bring the score to 61.
Sorry for being a bothersome retro- mercury person; but I am taking advantage of this wonderful opportunity to spotlight the power of the planets. Its good to pay attention to the details …so thanks! I am impressed by your dedication to Astrology and this amazing web site!
By: Barehand on September 30, 2010
at 6:18 am
HI, Donna,
Is this ever neat. Recently I’ve been exploring more deeply my Plutonian self, so this was helpful. My score is not that high, 46, but I struggle so with Plutonian stuff. It seems something is always being “transformed”. Guess the fact that Pluto conjoined my stellium in Scorpio a little over 20 yrs. ago and everything went to “hell”, you might say. I survived but am just now feeling brave enough to have a second look at what actually happened. (Pluto passing over my stellium coincided with my Uranus oppostion to my Sun. which resulted in a profoundly difficult Kundalini experience. I’ve only studied astrology since 2006, so 20 yrs ago I had no idea what was happening to me. I understand a lot more now and it really helps. I guess you’d say I’m an astrology “convert” because for me it points endlessly to the divine.
Anyway, here’s my “data”:
Sun conj. Merc. conj. Chiron + S. Node, all in Scorpio.
Pluto conj. Mars conj. Saturn, all sq. Sun in Scorpio
N. Node in 8th House
Thanks for your generous site! It’s so gracious.
Best to you,
Lynn
By: Lynn on October 15, 2010
at 1:58 pm
I am a little Plutonion. But I know what it means to be Plutonion, as I have recently been an innocent victim of a pure Plutonion and her spite, battle for control, resentment and a lot more. It could have been anybody, but it was me. Just my luck.
By: zogca on October 30, 2010
at 4:10 pm
Hi I was born sep/2/1954 in Amityville, NY (no joke!) @ 3:14:45 PM (mars rectified). I scored 43 on your pluto strength rating system.As to how close it comes? Well I can give some time and space event oriented discourse on the subject and leave it to you to interpret. I am too close to the mirror to focus on the face, even more so in that I am far sighted (Sag rising).
I was drawn to tarot and astrology at an early age and studied from cover to cover Nicolas Devore’s Encyclopedia by the time I was 15. I had the same Rider/Waite deck and book for decades before they disintegrated (I still have the Devore). I also absorbed some books on witchcraft and freemasonry but they seemed like the bullies of the pack. My parents had a mail order occult bookstore where I pilfered the books from.
I was a solitary child and these were the perches from which I studied and interpreted the passing world like a crow or starling. I was after a way to definitively and neatly regarding reality thereby mitigating or dodging any number of surprise attacks, heartaches and above all to understand the mystery I was unto myself. I grew out of the desire to wrap everything into neat packages of predictability as it did not work well and I was after effective means after all
. I wandered through in my 20s rather than strode, engaging in a lot of casual sex with strangers and near strangers and friends and told people, when they asked me what I wanted to become, that I just wanted them to mail me the check and leave me be.
I did many “readings” on request for people back then. astrology was one of the tools in my tool chest but I also just saw things just by being near or on the phone even with the person involved. I scared people with the things I said and learned that it did them no good to hear them and so shut up for awhile and came to realization by not talking that the “future” was amorphous and malleable. This was liberating and freed me to explore things with a greater sense of wonder and less of dread. I reached 28 and went to Art college.
I also audited (snuck into) Anthro classes at Harvard and bought all the anthro 2nd hand texts I could find in the square. My interest in these was still an attempt to understand myself as they discussed shamanism and trance which I had 1st hand and innate experience with and wanted, thereby, to understand myself better. That led me to Jungian psychology. I learned and used creative visualization to great result and moved to NYC as an experimental filmmaker.
It was around then that I began to slip into what the doc later called fugue (and other) states and I took abrupt dives into hades (the details of which I can give you if you really want them privately). I went into Reichian therapy which was the the single most constructive thing I ever did for myself and learned how to talk to people without causing them any unease or stress. I learned to enjoy people and the messages I receive now from non corporeal sources are clear, helpful, loving and bright. I reached 40 able to maintain a loving and lasting relation with another person and with people in general. Shifting between activities, people and interest is smooth now and the underlying terror and fear that haunted my childhood years has moved on to other environs and no longer belongs to me.
I have still non corporeal friends too that have been with me since those teen years who also help me to avoid the pitfalls of isolation and share hours of solitude with me in wordless blissful. I reached my 50s in strength and the firm conviction that, as Abraham-Hicks says, “you can’t get it wrong, and you never get it done”. aloha, Uhane
By: uhane on January 1, 2011
at 1:09 pm
Thanks for all the posts! I took all the tests and scored over 25 points in everyone of them. 35 points for Pluto which is the lowest. It’d be great to know what being a Mercurian/Saturnian/Neptunian/Plutonian means.
I’m glad I found this blog!
By: Tatyana on January 5, 2011
at 4:05 pm
I am a Capricorn. I got a 31 on the pluto test. I have only a jupiter in 8th house, but my pluto aspects my sun(square orb<1), moon, mars(square orb 50 on the uranus test …. so weired!
By: Priscilla on January 7, 2011
at 7:50 pm
My scores from your quizzes:
Mercury 52
Pluto 51
Moon 35
Saturn 28
Nep 25
And poor ole Uranus was only 19
Where is Mars and Venus?
I am an late April 1968 baby who has been introduced by colleagues to others as a “Force of Nature”. Given that I rarely step down in a show down, but instead stay very calm but forceful, I figured that I had a lot of Pluto.
Thanks for the quizzes.
By: Laughing on January 30, 2011
at 8:40 pm
Glad you’re Laughing!
Venus: http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/how-strong-is-your-venus-here%e2%80%99s-the-score/
Mars: http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/09/08/how-strong-is-your-mars-here%e2%80%99s-the-score/ Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 31, 2011
at 6:24 am
I have only just come across this Pluto test and have to say that i was surprised by my score – 35. I always thought i was more Uranian…right i’m off to check.
Thanks Donna for an interesting exercise!
By: LCB on February 2, 2011
at 1:33 pm
Total score : 68 or 76
Pluto
opposite MC (10)
square moon(10)
conjunction IC (10)
conjunction mercury (5)
conjunction mars (5)
square saturn (5)
sextile neptune (2)
sextile uranus (2)
pluto in scorpio(5)
sun in scorpio (5)
IC in scorpio (5) Would that count?
mercury in scorpio (3)
mars in scorpio (3)
proserpina in scorpio (3) Would that count?
lilith in 8th house (3)
Thank you for such an useful article and great great book (Healing Pluto Problems), which I cannot finish to read. This book will really help in my personal transformations.
By: Kathrine on February 8, 2011
at 8:43 pm
A score of 30… so midrange plutonian, I guess…
By: Asenath B. Waite on February 17, 2011
at 8:50 am
would you give points for Pluto conjunct the IC and square Descendant?
By: Diana on February 28, 2011
at 6:33 am
A conjunction to the IC counts as an opposition to the Midheaven, just as a conjunction to the Descendant counts as an opposition to the Ascendant. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on February 28, 2011
at 9:52 am
I get it now, thank you.
By: Diana on February 28, 2011
at 11:50 pm
“Here are the orbs I use for aspects: 8° for a conjunction or opposition, up to 6° for a square or trine, 3° for the minor aspects. The only exception would be a conjunction to the Midheaven or Ascendant, and, using the Gauquelin system, that is 10°.”
At the risk of sounding like a complete moron, did you just post that to tell us what you consider aspects? Or do we abide by that criteria while “sorting” our Pluto aspects? I scored a 45, but now I’m not even sure.
Sun (Virgo), Mercury (Virgo), Venus (Leo) & Jupiter (Virgo) = 8th House
Moon (Scorpio) & Pluto (Scorpio) = 10th House
Sun Sextile Pluto = Orb -1°22′
Moon Conjunct Pluto = Orb +3°51′
Venus Square Pluto = Orb -2°51′
Saturn Quintile Pluto = Orb +0°27′
Neptune Sextile Pluto = Orb -4°06′
Pluto SemiSquare AS = Orb -0°48′
Feedback would be appreciated.
By: Ann on March 4, 2011
at 9:53 pm
I posted it so people would know the standard orbs for aspects used in scoring the tests. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 5, 2011
at 12:52 am
A light has gone off after reading and scoring my Pluto. Yesterday I set out to find my power planet and it was Pluto. Today I scored a 46 on this site. I called my friend who is an astrologer to talk about this. She never told me about my plutonian problem.
Oh and it has been. Now it looks like I have some work to do.
Looked up my sons power planet and it looks like his is Pluto also. Darn.
I feel a sense of responsibility for that.
I also have major planets in 12th house.
My inability to express my true feelings have sometimes lead me to get really angry.
And turn it inward. Mars in 12 has a hand in that.
Pluto in 6th would make my health crap?
Virgo would make me fanatical about said health?
Just a novice.
But I am a true isolator in every sense of the word. When I come out of it and into a relationship . Heaven help the poor soul that has to take me on. I feel they should make up for my lack of human connection big time. And if I trust them they has better not mess that up.
I hope and pray my sun in Aries in the 1st house helps me a tiny bit. But I sometimes think it just confuses people who like that side of me and then the plutonian thing just confounds them.I attract them with my sun and repeal them with my strong Pluto.
My need for space and lack of trust has been a life long problem. As far as one on one relationships.
I look forward to reading your book.
Old habits die hard.
By: Laura on March 5, 2011
at 8:50 am
You certainly do sound like a true Plutonian. I think you and your son would find plenty to relate to in my book, Healing Pluto Problems. It’s now available on Amazon.com here: http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Pluto-Problems-Donna-Cunningham/dp/0877283982 . Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 5, 2011
at 12:38 pm
Hi Donna,
Extremely useful and eye opening information to say the least. I scored a 40 . well appears decent. doesnt it? my birth chart is down here
Planets & Houses
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0
Sun Aquarius 16.06 Ascendant Pisces 26.28
Moon Cancer 4.27 II house Taurus 4.51
Mercury Aquarius 7.10 R III house Gemini 3.41
Venus Capricorn 24.01 R IV house Gemini 27.45
Mars Libra 17.48 V house Cancer 21.31
Jupiter Scorpio 9.46 VI house Leo 19.22
Saturn Libra 22.14 R VII house Virgo 26.28
Uranus Sagittarius 4.09 VIII house Scorpio 4.51
Neptune Sagittarius 26.19 IX house Sagittarius 3.41
Pluto Libra 26.55 R Midheaven Sagittarius 27.45
Lilith Sagittarius 14.51 XI house Capricorn 21.31
Asc node Cancer 22.26 XII house Aquarius 19.22
Aspects
Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value
Sun Conjunction Mercury 8.56 53
Sun Trine Mars 1.42 62
Sun Trine Saturn 6.07 30
Moon Trine Jupiter 5.19 70
Moon Opposition Neptune 8.08 -32
Moon Trine Pluto 7.31 9
Moon Opposition Midheaven 6.42 -69
Mercury Square Jupiter 2.36 -74
Mercury Sextile Uranus 3.00 55
Venus Square Saturn 1.48 -100
Venus Square Pluto 2.54 -41
Venus Sextile Ascendant 2.26 55
Mars Conjunction Saturn 4.26 61
Mars Conjunction Pluto 9.08 17
Saturn Conjunction Pluto 4.42 138
Uranus Trine Ascendant 7.41 1
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0.36 51
Neptune Square Ascendant 0.09 -20
Neptune Conjunction Midheaven 1.26 68
Pluto Sextile Midheaven 0.50 16
Also jupiter is in scorpio in the eigth house and the presence of scorpio in the eight thouse kind of bothers me. is it really bad? Basically I find myself to be quite determined, probing and extremely investigative about things that are tick my antenna off. I usually try to see what is hidden behind the calm and joyous exterior people project and sometimes even analyse them using astrology and sometimes even numerology. I always feel that nothing is what it appears to be and by nature suspicious and cynical. At the same time I dont forget slights and past hurts very easily. I am also quite introverted and prefer staying alone than with peopleAre these the repercussions of the strong pluto aspect in my chart?
Some insights about this chart would be really appreciated Donna.. Thank you and have a great day
(NB:I will take the other tests and post my score here soon.)
By: Pearlson on March 11, 2011
at 12:25 am
Hi Donna,
My other scores are as follows
Mars-20
Saturn-28
Neptune-37
Moon-63
Uranus-34
Mercury -17
Pluto-40
So what am I finallY? I feel that the moon score is a bit blown outta proportion lols..
Your valuable insights would be dely valued Donna
Awaiting your inputs
Kindly yours,
Pearlson
By: Pearlson on March 11, 2011
at 1:35 am
I’m glad you’re enjoying the tests, Pearlson. My regular readers know that I am completely retired from doing charts and do not intepret readers’ charts on this blog. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 11, 2011
at 8:21 am
I am sorry about that Donna. I wasnt aware of that. I just wanted to know which planet dominates my chart to a great extent probably on a normalised basis. That planet which predominantly shows up on how I relate to the world outside.Thats all. Cos I am quite confused about that.Hope its not a trouble. Thank you very much
Kindly Yours,
Pearlson
By: Pearlson on March 11, 2011
at 9:27 am
In my chart Pluto in Virgo is in the 12th house,part of a grand trine with Mars in Taurus inthe 8th and Jupiter out-of-sign in Sagittarius in the 4th.It also sextiles my Sun/Venus conjunction in the 10th. It sextiles Neptune and opposes Chiron. I think there is added intensity with Pluto operating out of the 12th house–
By: jane on March 12, 2011
at 1:50 am
Like someone said here, I too am late to the party but I took the test(s) and was a little surprised with a Plutonian score of 59. I understand a comment a friend made in high school – “people are afraid of you.” With an Aquarius ascendant and Uranus “casting rays” from my sixth house I thought of myself as more Uranian than Plutonian. So, I took that test and again was a little surprised with a score of 49 on the Uranian test. Heh – quirky and intense. What a combo
By: Connie on March 18, 2011
at 9:18 pm
It sounds like you may have been born in the 1960s–an entire generation born with Pluto and Uranus conjunct and who are spending an entire lifetime trying to figure out how to combine those energies. If so, here are a couple of articles you may relate to: http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/vocational-angst-for-the-pluto-uranus-in-virgo-generation and http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/depp%e2%80%99s-darker-roles%e2%80%94where-do-they-show-in-his-chart. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 19, 2011
at 6:00 am
Close – Nov 3 1955 – Uranus early Leo and Pluto late Leo. Thank you, I found the articles useful – my younger siblings: Uranus in Leo and Pluto in Virgo/10th house; Uranus conjunct Pluto/2nd house. The first missed the conjunction being 15deg apart.
By: Connie on March 19, 2011
at 12:28 pm
Hi Donna,
I didn’t look too much at the minor aspects, but my score was a 41. Much of my Pluto relations are with mars and sun (both squares, and both in my 8th house). So, obviously my sun and mars are conjunct. Pluto is in my 5th house. I also have a pluto trine ascendant (fire), which I guess is a good trait.
I feel I have definitely felt pluto in my life (kind of repetitive there huh). However, I have no Scorpio in my chart. I was wondering just how much of a scorpion aspect you would have to your chart, life or personality with a strong pluto, but no scorpio. Or perhaps vice*versa even. Would you say there is or isn’t a scorpio energy evident? Only curious. Otherwise, how useful do think the above may be, and/or how so, (whadda ya think, more plainly)? Thanks.
PS: Both of my grandmothers were named Donna… oh, uh– oops! That isn’t a crack about your age or anything. Thnx…
By: Greg II on March 22, 2011
at 1:03 am
To me, the planet is always stronger than the sign, whatever the planet, but especially Pluto/Scorpio and especially when the Sun, Moon or Ascendant is involved. So your square from Pluto to the Sun counts high. When people guess your Sun Sign, do they sometimes guess you as Scorpio? Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 22, 2011
at 4:44 am
Another thing. My Moon and Pluto are in fact Quincunx, but i do not know how to interpret that. For some reason my personal planets are very close together in degrees, making for a lot of Pluto aspects too. I am unsure about the Scorpio. The following is mostly an assessment of myself that I think might be found in Scorpio, so feel free to just scan through and tell me what you think.
***Physically, my eyes are one of my more prominent features I have been complimented on, and I often wear black. When I don’t weightlift, I am still of slim but strong and sturdy build.
In relationships, the oppostie sex (girls) have described me as sort of mysterious, which for some odd reason they find attracts them to me. In public, I am often calm and controlled, in fact I am very deliberate and exact in how I express myself and feel I have perfect control over my public expression. I am polite, but not afraid of conflict, as I have a sort of independant mind. I feel I read people well. They do not always read me well, and some I have heard are intimidated by me, while I have no idea why (actually, I always have ideas why, I am just not sure why). I always make good eye contact. I do not like expressing much emotion in public. I believe in strong honesty. When younger I often did, perhaps subconsciously, try to manipulate people, but i try to stay honest and free now. I am alright at steering conversations and responses though, I think.
In private, my emotions run far more wild at times. I have high standards of both myself, people and relationships. I am ambitious and have ethical standards, and only really get pissed if I fail myself or I feel someone is trying to hold me back (that is not often their conscious intention, but an effect of what that is i think). I do not like expressing emotions, but I still express myself well, though I had a lot of trouble with that as a child. Night is my favorite time, as I feel more alive and recharged. Still, I really do care about people. I don’t want to give off the impression I don’t, ’cause i do. I have a strong physical constitution and sharp mind, I suppose. Never get sick, remember everything. Still, I love performance arts, I have strong clear beliefs but like debate. I love deeper things like philosophy, theology, or the occult, not really a superficial person.
I don’t like to share my emotional experiences with others often, but rather reflect on things myself. I have had a lot of trouble with emotional control and expression when really young, but I feel in many ways now i am supurb at it all. I hate hypocrisy, and people don’t like me pointing it out. They also don’t seem to agree with how I always push for more rather than settling for less.***
Great, thanks. You don’t have to read all of it, but I was wondering if any or much of the above is strongly associated with Scorpio. A wise man once said “know thyself”, so why not? Or if it is rather repulsively long say so. i like the dark, but don’t like being left in the dark. Thanks.
By: Greg II on March 23, 2011
at 11:50 am
Yes, Greg, you do sound very Plutonian, though I couldn’t comment on your chart at any length because I’m retired from doing charts. You might look for a copy of my book Healing Pluto Problems online for more insight. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on March 23, 2011
at 2:28 pm
I got a score of 55. I’m definitely Plutonian. When I first started studying astrology, and I read the descriptions for Moon in Scorpio and Moon conjunct Pluto, I immediately identified with them. Every description you wrote on here applies (or has applied in the past) to me:
“manipulating or coercing others” check (I’ve manipulated and coerced, and I’ve been manipulated and coerced)
“abuses of power” check (mostly on the receiving end of this)
“battles for control” double check
“resentments and grievances” check (took a long time to be able to forgive. I’m now really good at it
“failing for spite” yeah I’ve sabotaged myself before
“being a target of other people’s projections” hello. double check.
“transforming” yup yup. Check, check, and check.
“healing and empowering themselves and people and conditions they care about” I’ve healed myself, and now I’m focusing on learning to help others heal.
“Plutonians can have a natural gift for psychology” Oh yeah.
“the healing arts” I want to heal people’s souls. That’s what makes me tick.
“understanding what makes people tick.” yup.
I am an extremely intense person. Probably one of the most intense Taureans most people will meet. My dark, penetrating eyes I think are due to Scorpio being in my first house, because all my siblings, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc all have lighter eyes than I do.
I can look back over my life and distinguish 4 very clear stages in my life, and after each, I underwent a complete transformation, becoming almost unrecognizable to those who had known me in the prior stage. The longest period was 18 years (childhood), and the shortest period was just over a month. Being a Libra Ascendant, I can mark each of these stages by the beginning (and corresponding ending) of a very significant relationship.
When I was younger, I used to get scared of the ideas that would pop into my head, like “she’s being abused” or “he just cheated on his wife”. Later, when these intuitions would be confirmed, I realized that, for some reason, I can see quickly and easily straight to the core.
I’m also very survivalist. I know that, if I ever needed to make decisions to defend home and family (Mars in Cancer trine Pluto in Scorpio), there wouldn’t be a moment’s hesitation to do whatever I could to save them.
By: Brandon on April 29, 2011
at 5:41 pm
Yup, Brandon, you are definitely a Plutonian, in so many of the ways you describe. Welcome to the tribe! Donna Cunningham
By: Donna Cunningham on April 29, 2011
at 6:21 pm
“If my calculations are right…”
..Pluto scores a whopping 70 points. I thought Neptune would take the PUNCake but it was the lowest of the group at 57.
By: Jennifer on May 15, 2011
at 4:48 am
LOL! A 57 point Neptune is nothing to sneeze at (except during allergy season!) but 70 for Pluto is amazing! Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on May 15, 2011
at 5:07 am
now at a quick glance my number was not that high like 15 or so….. but i have pluto in my first house, square my moon in taurus, and a mars in scorpio in fourth square to my ascendant in leo….. and lots of t squares, my life is about self transformation and the transformation of individuals and groups so feel very plutonian
By: mia on May 27, 2011
at 7:21 pm
Welcome to Skywriter–and back into the world of astrology. You’ll find the blogosphere replete with new talent and new applications. As for Yods, we have a series of articles about quincunxes here on Skywriter, starting here:http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/heinous-hybrids%e2%80%94why-the-quincunx-is-no-minor-aspect/ . No articles on Yods–it would take a book chapter to analyze even one Yod. My recommendation would be The Yod Book by Karen Hamaker-Zondag.
There are over 500 articles on this site, so you might find it helpful to download the index by topic under the tab marked FREE. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on May 31, 2011
at 6:07 am
Oh my! Yep I got a score of 35 for Pluto. Do I love Psychology?! Absolutey! Do I love astrology for in depth analyses? YEP{! Is it in my 7th house…yikes!.. yes it is…ahahah I have been married for 11 years and can get in a fight at the drop of a hat. Do I own the sacred bible by DC “Healing Pluto problems” yet?!!!
(sheepisahly) no
Let the healing begin
By: Tina on June 16, 2011
at 10:34 am
LOL! The sacred Pluto Bible is still available, and it’s not written in stone (the shipping would cost more than the book.) You can order it at http://www.redwheelweiser.com or 1-800-423-7087 Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on June 16, 2011
at 4:09 pm
I scored 68 on your Pluto test and yes, I’m an extremely intense and a secretive person. I’m a law unto myself and the fact of it was frequently pointed out to me even by my bosses… I have Pluto Closely conjunct with my ascendant (nearly 3 degrees) and moon (1.5 degrees) and many of whom I have come into close contact belong to the sign of Scorpio – either Sun or Moon. Some of them are quite afraid of me and I do take a cruel pleasure in taunting them (That gives me a reputation of T-Rex isn’t it? To make Scorpio afraid of somebody takes something much more powerful – and I think Pluto in tight conjunction with Ascendant and Moon in my natal gives me some kind of raw power which is unrivaled even by the deadliest sign of the zodiac.) I consider myself as “Transcended Scorpio” and I have shed many bad qualities of the sign (though certain important ones remain ha ha) to be a better individual…
By: Adyaksh Kalajith on June 24, 2011
at 9:37 am
I’ll give you a run for your money haha.
By: Paul on March 2, 2012
at 11:38 pm
just barely on the “strong indeed” border of 26 yet this is my lowest score.
71 Sun
57 Moon
78 Mercury
42 Mars
59 Jupiter
53 Saturn
71 Uranus
26 Pluto
By: Kitty on June 27, 2011
at 12:31 pm
I have a tight conjunction of Pluto/moon conjunct descendant. I was extremely close to my mother and was obsessed with my relationships. I read both “Healing Pluto Problems” and “The Moon in Your Life” when they first came out. I am currently rereading them. A number of years ago I told Dr. Mitchell Gibson I was extremely Plutonian. He laughed and said, “Who told you that?”. Doubting my Plutonian feelings for many years, I took the test and got a 66! Enough said!
By: Anita on July 3, 2011
at 9:57 pm
With, or maybe despite a score of 42 I have identified with Scorpio for four decades. I guess a Scorpio Ascendant with an 8th house stellium can do that.
I certainly have been the recipient of projections, hard lessons, not sure I have yet learned. Owning my own power, learning about the effects of power differentials, say in relation with clients, and in particular riding those tidal waves of primal emotion to name some. I love the intensity of being on the edge, only psychologically though or physically as my healing hands touch on another’s limit.
By: suenosdeuomi on July 4, 2011
at 4:25 pm
Hmm… Let me try this out. I have no planets in the 8th house and only 1 planet in Scorpio (Uranus). Pff… no problem. Just need to check those Pluto angles and my score came up as…
45!! 0.o
1st House Pluto near Ascendant
(Cap) Sun Square Pluto
(Cap) Moon Square Pluto
(Cap) Mercury Square Pluto
Neptune Sextile Pluto
and a few smaller ones.
Combined that with having gone through 5 Pluto Square Transits (Venus, Jupiter, NN, Mars and Saturn) in the last 14 years and now Pluto Squaring my Ascendant. Yeah, this little planet and I have become best friends forever.
By: Krydia on August 2, 2011
at 7:47 pm
32 — Pluto’s the reason I stopped by today, just to express my gratitude for “Healing Pluto Problems,” my cherished personal bible. I was able to ask my mother to forgive me for the pain I had caused her, and she gasped and said, “But that’s what I want from you!” I was able to seek out my father and shake his hand. I was able to see my part in the most painfully compulsive relationship pattern — at long last! — and do something different. And I think especially this: I was able to die without killing myself. I’m pretty sure Plutonians know what I mean here. Anyhow, “Healing Pluto Problems” is a life-saver. Thank you.
By: Pete on August 6, 2011
at 4:51 am
Wonderful story, Pete–you did a beautiful thing! Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on August 6, 2011
at 3:37 pm
Wow on two counts. That you were able to do this and that Donna’s book was the source. Amazing stuff.
By: tizer on August 8, 2011
at 4:26 am
I got 75.
By: cassius on August 17, 2011
at 8:49 pm
My Uranus was 34 points and my Pluto was only 13 . I always thought Pluto was strong in my chart because i have Leo raising with Sun in Scorpio in the 4th. My year 1952 So far my Moon seems to be the strongest at 67.
By: Marcie on August 20, 2011
at 11:43 pm
Love this. 43. Not counting sun a mere 3 degrees shy of 8th house.
People have always told me I have “intense eyebrows”. I have always thought this is a silly attribute and that they are rather unimpressive and garden variety, average sized/shaped, darkish blonde. So I was delighted to see an earlier comment regarding the eyebrow issue. I have plucked, threaded, shaped, penciled, etc over the years in attempts to alleviate this issue but to no avail. Who knew.
People have told me since I can remember that I’m too intense and to “tone it down”. I hear versions and iterations of this constantly. With asc and four planets in Libra and taurus sun in 7th, I crave relationships, and struggle with the repellent properties this intensity can produce. I do well with Scorpios, but, tragically, continue to find myself magnetically drawn to Aquarians. Must be my plutonian thrill of “challenge” …if only they felt the same
Thanks again, this was fantastic. xxo
By: thevoltasf on August 23, 2011
at 6:05 pm
I have a 31 score on Pluto.I feel Pluto very much and even though it can be quite difficult I ve turned to after life themes and spirituality so my very strong Pluto serves me well actually.I ve learned to deal with it on a higher level.
Question:why didn’t you include other angles into the calculations?Like IC and Descendant?I find that ALL angles are equally important.Just wondering.
IF I d use all the angles I d have a little bit higher score of 36.
Im so happy you have all these calculations on the net!I calculated them all.Thank you for that.Keep up the good work and God bless!
Ana from Croatia
By: ana on September 10, 2011
at 2:33 pm
The Ascendant is opposite the Descendant, and the MC is opposite the IC, so planets conjunct the Dsc are scored as oppositions to the Ascendant. etc. In the research by Francoise & Michel Gauqeline, the ASC and MC brought far stronger statistical results than the Dsc & IC. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on September 10, 2011
at 3:04 pm
Oh I see!!Thank you,its been bugging me.
Peace!
Ana
By: ana on September 10, 2011
at 3:08 pm
Pluto, 53 points, Saturn 48. ;0
By: AnneB on September 12, 2011
at 10:25 am
Dearest Donna!
I was wondering if a hard aspect Pluto semi-square Asc counts like you said it does in your book Healing Pluto problems???I have 31 score of Pluto strength.IF this does count how much would it be in that case?
Thanks!
Ana
PS Love the book!!!
By: ana on September 14, 2011
at 3:08 pm
Wow, thank you for helping us Plutoniuns with these years. Pluto is transiting my second house soon, will conjunct Saturn at some point in the next years. I scored 71 in your Pluto test, btw. born in 1959, so the pluto issues are deep here. I’ve done years of therapy and other healing, and have recently been initiated as a healer, too. I have been releasing the past for a long time now, but really on a deeper level than before. I have a few creative projects that I’m finishing and hope to rise out the ashes once again. Thank you again for this.
By: Shelley on September 30, 2011
at 5:27 am
__10__ A whole bunch of minor aspects.
And even if I’m not controling with others, I am so scared of losing control over my own body and mind that I never got drunk or high.
)
__5__ Ascendant in Scorpio.
__3__ Uranus in Scorpio.
__3__ Mars in the 8th house.
TOTAL = 21
Not so Plutonian… I do have trust issues, though…
By: Oana C on September 30, 2011
at 7:10 am
Hi everyone! Well,my score is: 77!!! Oh,God.

Pluto0Mo-10
Pl120 Sun- 10
Pl120 Ve-5
Pl180Mc-10
Pl90Ac-10
Pl90Me-10
Pl180Ma-5
Pl90Sa-5
semisextile Ne-2
semisextile Ur-2
planet Mo in Sco-5
planet Pl in Sco-3
By: Tiana on October 29, 2011
at 2:41 am
My total score is 62.
By: Sharon on November 2, 2011
at 12:16 am
this is utter crap. I only score an 8 and am one of the most Plutonic people I know.
Then again, the truth is I have undergone a Pluto conj. to every blessed thing on my chart since the age of 8 or so – the last one’s coming up soon, now (mars in Cap) —- so maybe then… I WILL BE FREE!!!
By: Sol Invictus (@ahorrasi) on November 12, 2011
at 11:46 am
I got a 72. I’ve been a depressed Pluto person lately because I haven’t had the opportunity to have sex, dance, attend births or participate in kink lately. Oh well.
By: sarafaith (@sarafaith) on November 24, 2011
at 8:41 pm
20 pts pluto opposite my sun, pluto trine my MC
5 pts pluto opposite mercury
18 pts pluto quincunx north node, pluto semisquare chiron, pluto semisextile AC, pluto sextile neptune, pluto quintile uranus, pluto quincux jupiter
5 pts pluto in scorpio
6 pts mars and saturn in scorpio
5 pts sun in 8th house
3 pts mercury in 8th house
total= 62
whoops, my math is wrong!!
By: sarafaith (@sarafaith) on November 24, 2011
at 8:51 pm
Haha! I’m a natal sun Taurus, and I’ll admit I’m much more of a holy terror than I should be, but I wasn’t aware of how Plutonian I am technically speaking, I’ve always known I was intense and I’ve been known to be more than obsessive and dark but I hadn’t really investigated my chart. For all I’m about to list note how all my involved planets are in opposing houses, my chart is almost completely polar.
Sun,moon,merc in Taurus H8
Pluto and Lilith in Scorpio in H2
Venus/mars conj in Pisces (trine Pluto in Scorpio) in H6
Jupiter and chiron in cancer (trine Pluto in Scorpio) in H4
By: Tia on December 7, 2011
at 5:58 am
I tried to submit a comment previously, yet it has not shown up. I believe your spam filter may be broken?
By: brainwave entrainment on January 2, 2012
at 8:07 am
i scored 42. i noticed that according to these tests i am “off the charts” for every planet (Sun – 83, Moon – 73, Mercury – 41, Uranus – 60, Neptune – 43, Pluto – 42, and then there’s my Saturn…I scored a 5 lol ) Donna, can you or can anyone else tell me what this means if anything? I usually feel like I’m different, unusual, think on different levels than the people around me. I’m often misunderstood too I think. I imagine some of you have the same situation. Any help, insights or opinions would be much appreciated!
By: The Blue Lady on January 2, 2012
at 2:42 pm
Hi, BL. With those kinds of scores you’d be what I call an Outer Planet Person–lots of unusual abilities, lots going on, but not easy to fit into the mainstream. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 2, 2012
at 3:47 pm
blue lady, i’m also an outer planet person. i have a strong pluto and neptune. don’t worry and embrace it! you are an interesting and dynamic individual.
By: sarafaith (@sarafaith) on January 3, 2012
at 11:27 pm
Hi Donna. I scored 47 on the test. I’m not sure if I should count the South Node as a planet because mine is in Scorpio and in the 8th house. Also, my birth time is about 95% accurate and this puts Pluto on my 8th house cusp. I’m having difficulty distinguishing the effect of Pluto in the 7th and Pluto in the 8th. I should be 99% certain of my birth time if I can tell the difference. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
By: Darren on January 10, 2012
at 1:00 am
Wow it’s me again. I just finished calculating my planets. I am very surprise to see that Pluto in my chart ranks third, the Sun 81, Moon 80, Pluto 69, Venus 56, Neptune 50. I did not realise that Pluto was so strong in my chart. However, I did think it had some influence since it is in the first house 7 degrees Leo and conjunct the Ascendant 27 Cancer 59 within 9 degrees. Is that too far? If yes tg. But I find myself so mousy sometimes. I can defend others but when it comes to defending myself I give in. Thank you for this informative journey.
Paulette
By: Paulette Rabe on January 11, 2012
at 10:19 am
Yes, that’s very high. Planets within 10 degrees of one of the four angles are very strong, as peer the research by Francoise and Michel Gauquelin. If you haven’t read it, my book Healing Pluto Problems is still in print with RedWheel/Weiser.com. Regards, Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 11, 2012
at 11:54 am
Pluto really is the least dwarf planet, because it receives so much attention
By: Anna on January 17, 2012
at 8:21 am
Is a URL for copyrighted web content also covered by the copyright?
By: Zara Hall on January 21, 2012
at 1:56 am
It’s not copyright, no, but the URL is protected by your ownership of the domain name, which you have to renew periodically. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 21, 2012
at 8:25 am
My Pluto score came to 53. This seems to manifest in a playful (although very strong, mind) stubbornness. I actually enjoy having power struggles sometimes, particularly with three year olds since they seem to match my ridiculous stubbornness well. Exhausting but oh god. They are so thrilling to me for some reason.
I’m not mean. I just don’t give into the temper tantrums. The more tantrum you throw, the stronger my resolve becomes, and you will not get that dinosaur until we’ve all calmed down.
Life transformations are on a huge scale and my family tend to break up my lifetime based on huge transformational events. I ran away to Florida when I was a teenager – wild and rebellious – and came back smoothed out. My relationships with my mother and step-father did complete 180s.
Luckily, as I get older, my higher Plutonic personality aspects have been coming out and refining themselves. The intensity is still there but it seems more acceptable to be an intense 25 year old than an intense 8 year old.
By: Essie on January 30, 2012
at 9:22 pm
Hi, Essie, I thoroughly enjoyed your description and appreciated your capacity for self understanding. Great use of Pluto and I thoroughly agree that we can refine those Pluto traits with maturity and self-awareness. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on January 31, 2012
at 7:27 am
I agree with Donna, it’s a great way and creative outlet for all that Pluto energy. Your children must really respect you and feel your deep love for them. I hope I’ll be a mom like that someday as well
By: E14 on April 24, 2012
at 2:10 am
I don’t know how to calculate the last ‘question’ but i scored 74!!!
Pluto, Ascendent, and the 12th house are in scorpio. Sun opposition pluto. Venus trine pluto. Mars trine pluto. Neptune sextile pluto. Pluto conjunct ascendent (do i add this?) pluto sextile midheaven (do i add this?) moon in 8th house. venus in 8th house. Mars in 8th house. Jupiter in 8th house. 8th house in cancer(?) although my venus is in cancer does my pluto influence mean i’m more likely to be like a scorpio in love? thanks!
By: ScytheCat on February 5, 2012
at 2:12 pm
Huge Pluto score! Yes, with Pluto trine both Venus and Mars (two relationship planets) AND with Mars and Venus in the 8th, you are very much like a Scorpio in love. Donna
By: Donna Cunningham on February 5, 2012
at 6:12 pm
This is a fascinating revelation. I just counted up my stuff and it is about 45 (if i include the node as a five). I have pluto starting the transit of my 8th house as well…plus Neptune doing the transit of my 10th house Pisces wherein I have sun, venus, mercury. I have natal pluto conjunct moon and square mars, amongst other stuff, so it is good to get this information, as I can see that my hidden pluto stuff has got to come out to be dealt with. It shows how useful astrology as a counselling tool can be. Thank goodness for moon in virgo, which I always wanted to not have. I think it may be of valued assistance here. Thanks for your great insights.
By: Josie on February 17, 2012
at 6:54 am
I scored 91…
By: Sam King on March 2, 2012
at 2:40 am
Whoa, Donna! I got a 60! How do you like this one?
Midheaven in Scorpio, Saturn in Scorpio, Pluto conjunct Saturn, Pluto conjunct Midheaven, Pluto opposition Moon, Pluto semi-sextile Sun, Pluto quintile Ascendant, Neptune sextile Pluto, Venus sextile Pluto, Mars sextile Pluto.
Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Mars all in the 8th House.
My first Saturn Return occurs on October 30th to the exact degree! I have my sights set on pursuing medical school in my 30s, and I really hope that this is what the stars have in mind for me!!! Guess what branch? Pathology (the diagnosis of disease and autopsy work).
By: Paul on March 2, 2012
at 9:13 pm
Hi Donna,
Thank you for providing this test. I have taken all of them and Pluto is by far my highest (60+ points). However, you made mention in another test (I think it is the Uranus one) that heaven help a person wtih Scorpio and Aquarius influences. My Sun is Conjunct and Moon Opposite Uranus as well as the 11th house ruled by Aquarius with Uranus in my 7th and 8th houses. I feel that with heavy Scorpio influences, perhaps, this level of detachment is a blessing. This is my positive thinking at play.
By: TendingTheFire on March 10, 2012
at 9:41 pm
I scored 55. I’m a cancer sun, capricorn rising, pluto/moon/saturn/midheaven/south node scorpio.
I feel validated after reading through this page since I’ve always been waaaay more intense than anyone else in my family, (notoriously so, naturally).
So, I’m so happy to find my plutonian family!!
Here’s to more Harry Potter and less Darth Vader.
:)
By: Jessica Mae on March 12, 2012
at 9:37 pm
I scored 72… I dislike the attributes people assign to Pluto on the ASC (I have this placement in Scorpio.) I’ve read a great deal of information which unabashedly portrays people with this aspect (and Scorpio people, Plutonian etc) as being total control freaks. For me nothing could be further from the truth. I could care less what anyone else does, so long as they let me do my thing! Don’t get in my way, I don’t care what you do though. My husband and all other men I’ve been with have observed I am the least controlling woman they’ve ever been with. I’ve never been called manipulative by a single person in my life. I’ve been called dark, mysterious, sexual, explicit, taboo, strange, weird, bizarre, interesting; I’ve accepted all of that is true. No matter how much I think I’m being discreet and normal, apparently everyone else sees a freak when they see me. I have learned not to care. I just want to find myself in this life, and then escape her. I sense everything, and I mean everything. Sometimes I hate knowing exactly what people think of me. I walk out of a room, and I know what they say; I can say this, because later I’ll ask, did so and so say such and such (insert specific bit of completely fabricated gossip) about me? And I’m always right. If I know someone well I will tell them what they’re thinking, just by glancing at them, or by thinking about them. I’m never wrong. It’s good and bad I guess. I sometimes don’t want to know. I feel like people pay way too much attention to me. I don’t know why. Everyone notices me, remembers me. I never get to just be a face in the crowd. It’s flattering I guess, but I don’t understand, is it my energy? I want to be all of the things a person of higher Plutonian energy achieves, as you describe them; I feel a massive desire to transform, to push, to become, to let go of myself utterly. I don’t think my purpose is for me; I’m nothing, a total nothing. I want to get out of myself and channel whatever I’ve got here into the world about me, but I get hung up sometimes. Life is hard, I can’t explain myself to be people. I get so much attention, I’ve learned to just shut up. No one who knows me would ever hear me talk like this. I can’t tell anyone. Only myself.
By: ladyofnow on March 25, 2012
at 11:36 am
Ladyofnow: I think you have have things pretty much under control. Well, maybe not pretty much. More like deeply, intensely, and passionately under control.
By: Anita on March 26, 2012
at 10:39 am
Anita, thanks, I think maybe too much so! I’m looking for something, but it’s all outside of me. How desperately I want to get out of my self. South node in first house of self, in Scorpio. How desperately I want to submit all of it to the world around me; there is so much inside, and I am overwhelmed. I am trying but it isn’t easy, it requires a great deal of organization to channel out of yourself. Other people may need to come into themselves, stand in their own power. I realize I do not need this lesson at all, for I have already learned it far too many times; I need the opposite. What is mine doesn’t belong to me and I do not matter. Only what I have to channel out matters. If only I can get it out and give in… I don’t know if that makes sense but it is how I feel now. So intensely tormented by the excess of self energy and I am only just coming to realize that is my demon. Other people are beautiful and have so much within, while I’ll never be beautiful until I am no longer me. I know you’re probably thinking, “Oh I see that a schizophrenic has a computer and found this website,” no I’m not a schizophrenic, just a little nuts.
By: ladyofnow on March 28, 2012
at 6:14 pm
“I’m looking for something, but it’s all outside of me. How desperately I want to get out of my self.”
That’s your North Node in the 7th House of Others talking, not your South Node 1st House
. My guess is that by nature, you were extremely selfish in the past, and now in this lifetime, you are being called to get out of your self and into others. Alternatively, you probably have a great amount of self-control. Use that to your advantage while dealing with others!
I have South Node in Sagittarius in the 12th House (North Node in Gemini in the 6th House). By nature, I am a hermit and I’m brilliant in the academic, collegiate environment. That’s where I feel “safe”. In this lifetime, I’m being called to be of service. My entire life rests on becoming a doctor, so that’s what I intend on doing….no amount of debt will phase me (and lord knows, I have 4 planets in the 8th House!). Thankfully, all those planets in the 8th are making beneficial aspects to others, so that makes me think that I’ll get every single penny I need for my medical education through loans, and I eventually will pay them back….one day lol.
By: PD on March 29, 2012
at 6:43 am
Wow ladyofnow you’re inspirational! Especially since apparentely have so much power stored and you don’t wish to use it for bad deeds like manipulating other or trying to dominate them. I admire you all the more so coz in a way I feel the same as you since my North Node is in the 7th house as well (in Aquarius) and I do feel that I have to help people around me, give myself to them, heal them etc.. But personally speaking, my ego tends to get in the way, I’m still not mature enough to completely discard ym own selfish needs; even if I do help people, I require a great amount of gratitude in return.. which one wouldn’t really call ˝a selfless being˝ ah well life is life and we’re all learning our lessons, either way
I hope though for your sake ladyofnow that your gift isn’t being used by the people around you and despite your admiring passionate writing you aren’t expecting too much of yourself.. Though I myself am a perfectionist so who am I to talk here.. anyway take care of yourself and I sincerely hope you achieve your goals!
By: E14 on April 24, 2012
at 10:55 pm
HI ladyofnow I know exactly what you mean. I got 74 and I don’t believe I have a fixation with having power over people and controlling them. I understand that you can’t control people, they can do what they want. Manipulation has never been in my capacity either…it’s just wrong. But I do know two scorpios (born on the same day,month, year) and they were both manipulative and intense in friendships, very possessive.
But after thinking about the power and control attribute of pluto I realised that I am a control freak…..of myself!!! I can control my desires, my emotions, my thought process. I have power over myself. I can stop myself from doing things, block out emotions and mine are very powerful but you’d never assume that when talking to me. I want to understand myself more, how my mind works and manipulate it to benefit myself. So for me the desire for power and control is never of other people but myself.
The only time I want to influence people is for their benefit like when i give advice I hope the person will listen and take it on because I know it will help them a lot. It’s never malicious or for my own gain. Maybe it’s the way I’ve been brought up that I’m not selfish and power hungry and want to rule the world lol
By: ScytheCat on April 25, 2012
at 1:50 am
I (informally) scored 61 on the plutonian scale, primarily due to having Pluto at MC. Web page link points to my birth chart. I love to joke “*BE AFRAID*” (with regard to my chart). One interesting (computer) interpretation said “This could be the birth chart of a world leader or a crime boss.” I have a lot of cusps as well. With Pluto in Capricorn in my 2nd house, I hope this means that I’m succesfully re-inventing my career (I really am attempting to do this on multiple levels) and NOT doomed to failure or financial ruin in the process.
By: shabranigdo on March 29, 2012
at 4:12 am
pluto opposite venus—————————–5
pluto trine mercury——————————–5
pluto square mars——————————–5
pluto square saturn——————————5
pluto semisquare jupiter————————2
pluto semisquare ascendant——————-2
pluto in scorpio————————————5
mars in 8th house——————————–3
TOTAL:——————————————–35
By: June on March 29, 2012
at 1:21 pm
Since this is a topic about how strong your Pluto is, I’ll put my personal two cents here as well
First I have to say I still a big rookie when it comes to astrology, I only read articles now and then for fun, I’ll get round to it more seriously when I have more time available (lame excuse I know..). Eventhough I think I calculated my score pretty accurately, according to Donna’s instruction, I included Chiron in my calculation as well, adding two points for it coz I feel it’s influence well in my life, being located in Cancer and in 11th house. I’ve been dealing with issues of feelings of acceptance, security and trust and just plain ˝belonging˝ between my friends and peers all my life.. anyway so much for my lengthy intro.. Oh and I also added 5 points since Pluto in my chart is part of a Grand Cross including the Ascendant and Midheaven conjunct Moon involved.. since there aren’t any planets on each angle, just the IC/MC axis it could be regarded debatable so I leave this aspect to your own personal opinion, whether I calculated accuraretly or not 
What can I say about this? Right now I’m pretty much more on the negative side of Pluto, desperately trying to control my selfdestructive and destructive impulses, anger outbursts etc but since I moved away from my parents things have slowly, slowy started to change for the better. I’ve read on the net that people with Pluto conjunct IC tend to have certain issues, mysteries, transormational energies regarding their home, roots, heritage etc. Well that pretty much defines my lifestory, power struggles at home have shaped my outlook on life and now I’m dealing with all sorts of subconscious patterns that need to be resolved.. Like other people stated here before, I too have a great amount of insight, though intuition itselft can be wrong as well, if you ignore reason and logic (this is my Mercury square Neptune speaking.. oh boy..). In the end like I said we’re all still learning so I hope for the best for myself and everybody
Anyway I scored a total 58 and even if I substract the 7 points I still get a 51 which is off the charts so to speak
By: scarletdeceiver on April 24, 2012
at 11:31 pm
I got a 71!!!!!!!! Only 9 points below the guy who got 80!!!!!!
By: Miz Alana on May 2, 2012
at 8:43 pm
So great to see so many fellow Plutonians. I scored a 55 if you include the Chiron opposition.
Donna, what if Pluto is retrograde? Would you detract points? Or would you simply consider the energy a more internal manifestation first?
With the exception of the Moon (54) my outer planets score higher than the personal planets. No wonder I’ve always felt different. And ever since my Chiron return, I’ve felt even more in tune with the transpersonal.
If you look back on the photos over my 53 years you can see a very physical difference at key stages of my life. I don’t look anything like I did when I was 20, 30 or 40. Talk about transformation!
By: Jerry Ketel on May 27, 2012
at 7:14 pm
Hi,Jerry, no I wouldn’t detract points, as I don’t think it’s weaker–just that such an inward planet is even more inward and perhaps less apt to confide in others. Who’s really fantastic on retrogrades in Erin Sullivan (http://www.erinsullivan.com) –wrote the only book on it. Donna
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at 4:08 am
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